Number Of Denver Wins In Miami

[ether79]

I know of a certain number 13 who probably would too.

He would probably rather have Terrell Davis without the cheating. Elway had both and wouldn't have won it without one or both.

edit: so lets not make this about Marino, don't be a troll.

 

[ChampBailey24]

Welcome to Finheaven and nice way to enter in your first post by being a smartass:D Nice research though

research! any real fan would know that

 

[BroncoInferno]

He would probably rather have Terrell Davis without the cheating. Elway had both and wouldn't have won it without one or both.

Prove the infraction helped us in any way on the field. You can't.

And what does Davis have to do with anything? Blame Miami management for ignoring the run for 17 years.

 

[Phinz1972]

I know of a certain number 13 who probably would too.

Plain ignorance on your behalf man. It has shown that you don't like football at all, you just care to brag about a team you claim to be your favorite winning the superbowl.

To win the SB in a cheating manor is disrespecting Vince L since its name after him, disrespecting all the players that won it fair and square, disrepecting the players that put their health and well being on the line just for a chance to play in the superbowl, etc....

You must be one of those fans that are cheering on a team when they are good, but once they start to not do so well, you are nowhere to be found. Go back to the Denver MBs and talk to your other friends that you had come along to FH with you just to attempt to stir trouble up on FH because it is not working, you need a new gameplan.

 

[BroncoInferno]

edit: so lets not make this about Marino, don't be a troll.

It was a Dolphin fan who changed the subject. I posted a more "serious" toned post after my first one.

 

[ether79]

Prove the infraction helped us in any way on the field. You can't.

And what does Davis have to do with anything? Blame Miami management for ignoring the run for 17 years.

Read the guys post and ask yourself why I said that.

 

[DPlus47]

The league stated we received no competitive edge from the infraction, and until somebody can prove we did...:tongue:

Still, I will trade a 3rd round pick for a Super Bowl trophy ten times out of ten, and I know of a certain number 13 who probably would too.

a serious question: how does one determine that the team didn't gain a competitive advantage by breaking the salary cap rules? why have a rule like that if it doesn't help you to break it?

 

[BroncoInferno]

Plain ignorance on your behalf man. It has shown that you don't like football at all, you just care to brag about a team you claim to be your favorite winning the superbowl.

To win the SB in a cheating manor is disrespecting Vince L since its name after him, disrespecting all the players that won it fair and square, disrepecting the players that put their health and well being on the line just for a chance to play in the superbowl, etc....

You must be one of those fans that are cheering on a team when they are good, but once they start to not do so well, you are nowhere to be found. Go back to the Denver MBs and talk to your other friends that you had come along to FH with you just to attempt to stir trouble up on FH because it is not working, you need a new gameplan.

Except the infraction didn't help us win anything. It was basically like this: Bowlen deferred payments in Elway's restructured contract to a time when the new stadium revenues were in place. There was nothing in the collective bargaining agreement against such deferments, but it was later determined it was indeed a violation. Had this been known at the time, they simply would have structured Elway's contract differently. The league stated we gained no competive edge from the infraction, and no one can prove we did.

 

[Phinz1972]

Except the infraction didn't help us win anything. It was basically like this: Bowlen deferred payments in Elway's restructured contract to a time when the new stadium revenues were in place. There was nothing in the collective bargaining agreement against such deferments, but it was later determined it was indeed a violation. Had this been known at the time, they simply would have structured Elway's contract differently. The league stated we gained no competive edge from the infraction, and no one can prove we did.

I don't give a flying crap if they cheated or not, what I was talking about is you saying you cheat to win a SB and you know that a number 13 would....so you were implying that Dan would cheat to win a SB if possible...which is plain ignorance and homerism on your part.

Gather your mythical bronco fan pals and take your ignorance for the game of football elsewhere if you want to imply stupid crap like that.

 

[Kaylore]

a serious question: how does one determine that the team didn't gain a competitive advantage by breaking the salary cap rules? why have a rule like that if it doesn't help you to break it?

Bowlen wanted to go into business with Elway (And eventaully did, they co-own the Crush). Elway was given a part of the team as a kickback to compensate for the pay cut from the year before. There wasn't a rule saying you couldn't do that, but there wasn't a rule saying you could. They were building a new stadium at the time too, so dollars were flying all over the place. Al Davis caught wind and called foul. The league looked into it and asked Denver to open the books up, which they did cooperatively. They ruled that players can't be paid like that so the penalty came into play. Would Elway have still played for the team w/out the kick back. We'll never REALLY know, but we can assume so.

 

[BroncoInferno]

C'mon guys. I made a joke for my first post. A little harmless smack. Don't get your panties in a twist.

Seriously, this could be a tough game if it gets too humid. The key will be for Denver to jump out to an early lead. Shanahan is very good at scripting the first fifteen plays of the gameplan so as to take advantage of the opponents weakness and get up by a couple of scores. If you guys come out of that still within a score, it will probably be a close game till the end.

 

[Ohio Fanatic]

I never bought into the "weather factor" They're pros with coaches and trainers, they'll know what to expect and how to deal with it. I'm pretty sure the Dolphin players will be tired in the 4th too. Just like when people make comments about the Dolphins playing in cold weather games, I cant stand that.

First of all, you Broncos Fans know nothing about the weather in the south. Having lived in the humid gulf coast is so much worse than when I lived in Texas. not even close. DOn't get me wrong, the weather in Texas sucks, but it's not as bad as the gulf coast. And having been to Miami, the gulf coast weather isn't as bad as Miami. IF A>B>C, then Miami is WAY worse than Texas.

Given that, to address ScrepsMJ's quote. WHen I lived in Indianapolis and colts were coming down to Miami in September (Approx 8-9? years ago?)> I watched that ******* harbaugh on the TV interview say "We have bad humidity in Indianapolis, we train in it, we're professionals, we will not have any problems in Miami". Well, guess what, Little Jimmy had to pull himself out of the game in the 4th quarter due to heat exhaustion. So, it does make a difference. Maybe not to Tampa, JAX, NO teams, or to every player, but to everyone else, it does.

 

[DPlus47]

Bowlen wanted to go into business with Elway (And eventaully did, they co-own the Crush). Elway was given a part of the team as a kickback to compensate for the pay cut from the year before. There wasn't a rule saying you couldn't do that, but there wasn't a rule saying you could. They were building a new stadium at the time too, so dollars were flying all over the place. Al Davis caught wind and called foul. The league looked into it and asked Denver to open the books up, which they did cooperatively. They ruled that players can't be paid like that so the penalty came into play. Would Elway have still played for the team w/out the kick back. We'll never REALLY know, but we can assume so.

thanks for the explanation. i don't think it's a matter of whether elway would have played. i think it's more a matter of how much smaller the pay cut would have been, which would have affected other players on the team. granted, they could have structured elway's deal differently, so it can go around in circles.

as for the topic of the thread, the heat will be a factor IF AND ONLY IF miami can raise the QB play to slightly-below-average. i'm keeping my fingers crossed. i do expect them to look better than they did in the preseason, but it's not based on anything other than "they couldn't look much worse." i do think miami's D will be fine. we'll see.

 

[Zeke0123]

Well I and JPost haven't made a post yet that has said "you guys suck" or anything like that. I've defended my team and some of the ignorant statements regarding our "overrated" defense. Generally I think I"ve had some fair posts, and generally we've all been accosted. On the other hand I didn't expect anything differently, I mean it IS another team's board before a game.

Everyones defense is just that until they take a few snaps in the regular season.

 

[StLouisFinFan]

Well I and JPost haven't made a post yet that has said "you guys suck" or anything like that. I've defended my team and some of the ignorant statements regarding our "overrated" defense. Generally I think I"ve had some fair posts, and generally we've all been accosted. On the other hand I didn't expect anything differently, I mean it IS another team's board before a game.

Don't sweat it...there are ignorant shmucks anywhere you go...like us, you'll have to weed them out and search for intelligent comments from the more astute Dolphans.