Offensive Coordinator Question

[Ekinger]

Is a great O-coordinator a guy that takes the talent he's given and creates a system to best use that talent? Or is it a guy that teaches his system moste efficiently to the team he has? Maybe it's somewhere in between?

So many O-Coordinators go on to be head coaches. It seems Linehan was a very, very talented guy. Why didn't we try harder to keep him? Why didn't we look at him as a possible head coach instead of Saban? Did he only come to us when Saban did? Anyone know how that whole thing transpired?

Do O-Coordinators have any input on personnel? It seems they should since they have to work with the players they wind up with.

 

[MiamiMike74]

i' don't know! but i think malarkey has to go

 

[NJFINSFAN1]

Is a great O-coordinator a guy that takes the talent he's given and creates a system to best use that talent? Or is it a guy that teaches his system moste efficiently to the team he has? Maybe it's somewhere in between?

So many O-Coordinators go on to be head coaches. It seems Linehan was a very, very talented guy. Why didn't we try harder to keep him? Why didn't we look at him as a possible head coach instead of Saban? Did he only come to us when Saban did? Anyone know how that whole thing transpired?

Do O-Coordinators have any input on personnel? It seems they should since they have to work with the players they wind up with.

You talent level changes, you need to change, some guys do certain things better then others. You need to adapt, if you don't, you don't have a job long. So you adapt you offense to help put the personal in the best position to succeed.

 

[LeftCoastFinFan]

I just want to know how much of last Sunday's game was Mularkey. If he called the Offense and can do it again (and again), he gets a reprieve in my opinion.

:confused:

 

[NJFINSFAN1]

I just want to know how much of last Sunday's game was Mularkey. If he called the Offense and can do it again (and again), he gets a reprieve in my opinion.

:confused:

My thought he was told over the bye week to do two things

1. Go deep to Chambers more.
2. Give Brown the dam ball.

Now if we can stop trying the wide receiver screen 5 times a game, I'll be happy.

 

[themole]

My thought he was told over the bye week to do two things

1. Go deep to Chambers more.
2. Give Brown the dam ball.

Now if we can stop trying the wide receiver screen 5 times a game, I'll be happy.

I think that's exactly what he was told.:evil:

 

[finfan54]

My thought he was told over the bye week to do two things

1. Go deep to Chambers more.
2. Give Brown the dam ball.

Now if we can stop trying the wide receiver screen 5 times a game, I'll be happy.

exactamundo. Just feed ronnie......like yesterday. It would be a no brainer to me in the hot miami sun to wear down the *******s. But to give Mularky some leniency, he has had to wait for the Oline to develope.

 

[phinphan11]

I, for one, am not a Mike Mularkey fan, but I read some things today that gets me to thinking that the questionable play calling just might not be all his fault...

.."A source said Mularkey was given more freedom to construct his own game plan against Chicago with less of an emphasis on the playbook Linehan left behind, which could bode well for the future as Dolphins players adjust to their sixth different coordinator this decade."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-marvezcol110706,0,1198376.column

... and ...

..."there are rumblings among players and others with inside knowledge of the team that Saban has too frequently placed his fingerprints all over the game plans designed by his staff"...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-dolgrade110706,0,5238571.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front

 

[PhinsRock]

I, for one, am not a Mike Mularkey fan, but I read some things today that gets me to thinking that the questionable play calling just might not be all his fault...

.."A source said Mularkey was given more freedom to construct his own game plan against Chicago with less of an emphasis on the playbook Linehan left behind, which could bode well for the future as Dolphins players adjust to their sixth different coordinator this decade."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-marvezcol110706,0,1198376.column

... and ...

..."there are rumblings among players and others with inside knowledge of the team that Saban has too frequently placed his fingerprints all over the game plans designed by his staff"...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-dolgrade110706,0,5238571.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front

I have to agree with you, if these reports are right maybe Boolarky can turn it around. He was pretty good OC for the Steelers, and maybe Saban needs to let his coordinators coordinate.

 

[NJFINSFAN1]

I, for one, am not a Mike Mularkey fan, but I read some things today that gets me to thinking that the questionable play calling just might not be all his fault...

.."A source said Mularkey was given more freedom to construct his own game plan against Chicago with less of an emphasis on the playbook Linehan left behind, which could bode well for the future as Dolphins players adjust to their sixth different coordinator this decade."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-marvezcol110706,0,1198376.column

... and ...

..."there are rumblings among players and others with inside knowledge of the team that Saban has too frequently placed his fingerprints all over the game plans designed by his staff"...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-dolgrade110706,0,5238571.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front

Well, The steelers were going to fire him when the Bills hired him, and the Bills could not wait to get rid of him, that tells me something.

And the Bears game was the first time it has looked anything like Linehans playcalling (besides those dopey wr screen passes)

 

[phinphan11]

Well, The steelers were going to fire him when the Bills hired him, and the Bills could not wait to get rid of him, that tells me something.

And the Bears game was the first time it has looked anything like Linehans playcalling (besides those dopey wr screen passes)

Isn't this comparing apples to oranges? OCs to HCs?

 

[themole]

Well, The steelers were going to fire him when the Bills hired him, and the Bills could not wait to get rid of him, that tells me something.

And the Bears game was the first time it has looked anything like Linehans playcalling (besides those dopey wr screen passes)

Would you please refrain from the profanity?:D

 

[Ekinger]

Since so many OC's and DC's become head coaches it doesn't seem to me that it's apples to oranges.

Does anyone know why we didn't try to keep Linehand? Why he wasn't considered a head coach potential for us? I don't remember if Saban brought him in or if he was hired by Spielman before he left?

The Chicago game didn't seem offensively all that different to me than any other game other than running Ronnie 15 times more than we have in the past. And frankly that seemed to be a product of the defense keeping us on the field and us having a lead the entire game.

If we had an accurate qb it would seem to make sense that we open things up and go deep more often. But Joey can't throw anything more than 10 to 15 yards with any consistency or without turning the ball over. Therefore it seems to me that the gameplan from the start would have been one utilizing ball control. Many teams have proven that the short pass can be utilized just as well as running to sustain drives. Get the ball in the receivers hands closer to the line of scrimmage and let them make a play. Mix that in with equal running and that seemed to be more Linehan style.

If the defense isn't on the field the whole game and isn't expected to make game winning plays, chances are they will make those plays.

 

[phinphan11]

Since so many OC's and DC's become head coaches it doesn't seem to me that it's apples to oranges.

Only if those HC's call their own plays...

Does anyone know why we didn't try to keep Linehand? Why he wasn't considered a head coach potential for us? I don't remember if Saban brought him in or if he was hired by Spielman before he left?

Saban hired him... and he's not going anywhere.

The Chicago game didn't seem offensively all that different to me than any other game other than running Ronnie 15 times more than we have in the past. And frankly that seemed to be a product of the defense keeping us on the field and us having a lead the entire game.

This fact directly led to us controlling and winning the game, IMO.

If we had an accurate qb it would seem to make sense that we open things up and go deep more often. But Joey can't throw anything more than 10 to 15 yards with any consistency or without turning the ball over. Therefore it seems to me that the gameplan from the start would have been one utilizing ball control. Many teams have proven that the short pass can be utilized just as well as running to sustain drives. Get the ball in the receivers hands closer to the line of scrimmage and let them make a play. Mix that in with equal running and that seemed to be more Linehan style.

Enter: Cleo Lemon!!!

If the defense isn't on the field the whole game and isn't expected to make game winning plays, chances are they will make those plays.

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Case in point, the last game.

 

[phinphanforever]

I must have been watching a different game than those who are praising Mularkey because, frankly, I didn't think the play calling was anything special. I was pleased that the Fins finally stuck with the run but I feel they could have run even more. There were several moments in the game when the Fins should have buried the Bears. The plays seemed more intent on "fooling" rather than taking it to the Bears. Our lineman were actually dominating the Bears' front four for periods of the game and Mularkey was calling screens, reverses etc. He should have been ramming the ball down their throats.
The fins won't be able to run like that every week but I feel we abandoned the run too early this season. Brown has been criticised for not being able to carry the load but he looked pretty good to me, especially as the game wore on.
I think people are putting to much stock in the actual plays rather than the play calling. Linehan was so successful, especially during the second half of the season, because he was able to read the pulse of the team. Mularkey has been calling plays trying to get the opponents D out of sync but he seems to be disrupting our offensive rhythm instead.
Defenders of Mularkey claim that it is the players who just haven't been executing. There is a kernel of truth in this argument. However, I think better play calling-haveing a better sense of what will work- would put players in a beeter position to succeed. This is especially true of the O-line.