Ok, hold up, wait a minute.....

[Kinzua]

I think it was Calvin Pace after you guys beat us in Miami on that Monday Night in 2009. Times change, I still hate the WC but we have been using it the last few years and we will continue to. Now we have the best guy running it, Rex obviously knows how hard(or irritating) it is to prepare for it. We'll see what happens.

How do you know that since that "best guy" has never actually run the WC in a game situation? IMO, Tebow is NOT the "best guy" at all. He's so inaccurate as a passer than he may very well compromise the effect of the wildcat, and he's NOT really that great a runner compared to having a real RB (Ronnie Brown) back there.

The WC is effective when teams have to worry about both the run and the pass. Contrary to what Tebots believe, Tim Tebow is NOT nearly the runner that QBs like Michael Vick and Cam Newton are -- and he's a much worse passer. With Tebow, teams will simply contain the run and force Tebow to pass, and if the DBs are disciplined and stay in their lanes, they'll have as much chance of getting the ball as the Jets' receivers.

 

[Kinzua]

LOL, that is driving the Giants and their fans crazy.

The bad thing for me (and other Tebow fans) is that Tebow is killing it in the Jet's training camp. He is unstoppable on the GL, Rex even "joked" that they might go for two after every TD.

So now I have Tim, playing for the Jests, running "Sparano's" offense. Which Sparano had zero to do with, but now he is the 'expert" on it.

Well, the Jests will likely need to go for two whenever they actually score TDs because they probably won't score many. Both Tebow and Sanchez have been sucking at passing. One practice they were a combined 2-for-14. In another one, Sanchez barely completed 50% of his passes ... in practice! :D

I'm still trying to figure out how the Fins supposedly have the worse WR corps in the AFCE (or AFC or NFL I suppose). Obviously, the aura of Jabba the Jest has obscured the fact that other than mediocre diva Santonio Holmes, the Jests don't have much on that unit except never-weres and wannabees.

 

[nyjunc]

Ronnie Brown throws the ball better than Tebow. That is why Denver changed their entire offense because they knew Tebow can't throw like a real NFL quarterback. Tebow is better when he runs the ball. The dude would make a better running back than a quarterback.

Forgive my spelling. This was sent from my phone.

Ronnie has attempted 12 passes in his career, all out of trick play formations. To say he is a better passer is silly.

Tebow is better when he ruins the ball but he's actually a threat to pass unlike Ronnie.

him and Bart Scott. Scott actually bashed the wildcat during two separate sets of interviews that year. Oh well, hes a total non factor, has been for a couple years, although he has the attitude like he is worth something. He reminds me of Channing Crowder. All talk no game.

Bart Scott was great for us the first 2 years, he ahd a down year last year. He's ntohing like Channing Crowder.

Parcells drafted that girl.. It wasnt even Ireland. Parcells call 100%

Yep, every bad pick was BP, every good pick was Ireland.

Yep. That is why it only worked for a year for us. Same thing with Denver and Tebow. Elway knew running a college style offense in the NFL could only last one season. Hence the pursuit of Manning.

Forgive my spelling. This was sent from my phone.

That was denver's primary offense, it will not be our primary offense.

How do you know that since that "best guy" has never actually run the WC in a game situation? IMO, Tebow is NOT the "best guy" at all. He's so inaccurate as a passer than he may very well compromise the effect of the wildcat, and he's NOT really that great a runner compared to having a real RB (Ronnie Brown) back there.

The WC is effective when teams have to worry about both the run and the pass. Contrary to what Tebots believe, Tim Tebow is NOT nearly the runner that QBs like Michael Vick and Cam Newton are -- and he's a much worse passer. With Tebow, teams will simply contain the run and force Tebow to pass, and if the DBs are disciplined and stay in their lanes, they'll have as much chance of getting the ball as the Jets' receivers.

He ran a variation of it in Denver and helped his team get to the playoffs and win a playoff game, winning the playoff game on his arm not his legs.

Tebow is not as fast as Vick and newton but he's much more physical as a runner and very effective.

Well, the Jests will likely need to go for two whenever they actually score TDs because they probably won't score many. Both Tebow and Sanchez have been sucking at passing. One practice they were a combined 2-for-14. In another one, Sanchez barely completed 50% of his passes ... in practice! :D

I'm still trying to figure out how the Fins supposedly have the worse WR corps in the AFCE (or AFC or NFL I suppose). Obviously, the aura of Jabba the Jest has obscured the fact that other than mediocre diva Santonio Holmes, the Jests don't have much on that unit except never-weres and wannabees.

yes if we only had Chan Gailey running our offense w/ Ryan Fitzpatrick as our QB we'd score at will.

Miami clearly has the worst WR corps and it's very debateable who #3 is as you onlyu have Stevie Stone hands and no one else. At least we have a really good pass catching TE to help the pass game.

You are really throwing out stats in practice? seriously?

 

[MD]

If the Jets had a decent QB they wouldn't have to rely on a gimmick offense run by the back up QB to put points on the board.

 

[nyjunc]

If the Jets had a decent QB they wouldn't have to rely on a gimmick offense run by the back up QB to put points on the board.

We have more than a decent QB, you don't win as much as we have w/ Mark if you have a bad QB. The Jets are being creative, did you know GB was intereste din tebow? so was Dallas. Those teams have pretty good pass offenses, right?

 

[MD]

We have more than a decent QB, you don't win as much as we have w/ Mark if you have a bad QB. The Jets are being creative, did you know GB was intereste din tebow? so was Dallas. Those teams have pretty good pass offenses, right?

Any interest was from a marketing standpoint because unlike the sideshow in New York, they have good QBs they won't take off the field.

The Jets offense is bad, led by an incompetent QB that accepts being removed from the field so the back up QB can put points on the board. What a joke they have become.

 

[nyjunc]

Any interest was from a marketing standpoint because unlike the sideshow in New York, they have good QBs they won't take off the field.

The Jets offense is bad, led by an incompetent QB that accepts being removed from the field so the back up QB can put points on the board. What a joke they have become.

Yeah, they would have given up picks for marketing purposes b/c the Packers and Cowboys struggle so mightily markeiting their teams.

we have a better offense than you guys and likely a better O than Buffalo so it can't be that bad.

It's about scoring points any way you can, I don't care if we have to run fake FGs in, as long as we score and as long as we win.

 

[LANGER72]

I hope the Fins spend some time defending it in practice using the new 4/3 system. I would hate to have Sparano rub our nose in Tebow squat.

 

[MD]

You don't have a better offense then us or Buffalo in fact some analysts are suggesting the Jets will finish with a bottom 3 offense. Your OL sucks, Sonn Greene is worthless, you have one semi-comatose WR and again, need a back up QB to put points on the board. Your team has fallen a long ways quickly and have not seen rock bottom yet.

Better offense then the Dolphins or Bills

 

[nyjunc]

You don't have a better offense then us or Buffalo in fact some analysts are suggesting the Jets will finish with a bottom 3 offense. Your OL sucks, Sonn Greene is worthless, you have one semi-comatose WR and again, need a back up QB to put points on the board. Your team has fallen a long ways quickly and have not seen rock bottom yet.

Better offense then the Dolphins or Bills

Yes it would be very difficult to again have a better offense than Buf and Miami like we did last year despite all our problems.

If our QB sucks, OL sucks, Greene sucks, WRs suck then how did we have a better offense than you guys last year? and now we have more talent than last year and you have less talent than last year. How does this work?

 

[MD]

Yes it would be very difficult to again have a better offense than Buf and Miami like we did last year despite all our problems.

If our QB sucks, OL sucks, Greene sucks, WRs suck then how did we have a better offense than you guys last year? and now we have more talent than last year and you have less talent than last year. How does this work?

Sorry but you didn't have a better offense and talent wise you are not close to the Dolphins. Plus we have a modern offense while you are planning on a Sparano ground and pound offense.

Ground and pound in 2012. What a joke.

 

[nyjunc]

Sorry but you didn't have a better offense and talent wise you are not close to the Dolphins. Plus we have a modern offense while you are planning on a Sparano ground and pound offense.

Ground and pound in 2012. What a joke.

We averaged 21.4 PPG
Miami averaged 19.7 PPG

which is better?


We are better at QB, WR, OL, TE, RBs are even

Philbin doesn't have Aaron Rodgers and all thos great WRs anymore.

 

[MD]

That doesn't weed out points scored by defense or ST. We averaged more yards per game and more total yards overall

Sorry but we are far better on the OL and at RB and your starting QB is not as good as our backup plus we have a promising rookie. Your team is dysfunctional and has become a joke around the league.

EDIT: Almost forgot your dysfunctional WR corps led by the cancer growth Santonio Holmes. He sucks and will be bitching early in the season about not seeing the ball and how Tebow takes away from him.

 

[nyjunc]

That doesn't weed out points scored by defense or ST. We averaged more yards per game and more total yards overall

Sorry but we are far better on the OL and at RB and your starting QB is not as good as our backup plus we have a promising rookie. Your team is dysfunctional and has become a joke around the league.

Yes it does, I removed all D/STs pts.

The only way you would get the edge at QB is if tannehill comes in and lights it up.

Your RB was invisible when you were 0-7, when the season was lost he played "great".


Our team is a joke b/c of how they act, your team is a joke b/c of how they play.

 

[MD]

Again, Sanchez is worse then Matt Moore last year. Look at the stats. Garrard is far better then Sanchez. It's not close. Your offense will battle for the worst in the NFL this year.