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Defense played well All game. Say what you want, but they were in Vicks face ALL DAY, and the coverage was actually pretty damn good for the most part, but Vick was on target on EVERY throw. O-line was awesome, 0 huries, pressures, etc.... on the QB is a hell of a feat for even the best O-lines against even the sorriest of defenses. RB/RW continue to look nothing short of Spectacular. WR's........couple of drops, but it's hard to say how well they actually played given the fact that the QB just doesn't have the ability to get them the ball whether they're open or not. QB........Frerotte has blown it again, it almost pains me to say this, but with Fiedler we probably have 2 or 3 more wins, I really don't know what the deal is with Frerotte, I was happy when we got him, and now I'm regretting it. The guy is AJ Feeley with a little better decision making, but less accuracy which is not good at all.

So Grades......

D-line: A
LB's: A
DB's: C+
O-line: A+(Hudson Houck is a genius!!!!!)
RB's: A
WR's: C
QB: F
 
outlawd2u said:
Defense played well All game. Say what you want, but they were in Vicks face ALL DAY, and the coverage was actually pretty damn good for the most part, but Vick was on target on EVERY throw. O-line was awesome, 0 huries, pressures, etc.... on the QB is a hell of a feat for even the best O-lines against even the sorriest of defenses. RB/RW continue to look nothing short of Spectacular. WR's........couple of drops, but it's hard to say how well they actually played given the fact that the QB just doesn't have the ability to get them the ball whether they're open or not. QB........Frerotte has blown it again, it almost pains me to say this, but with Fiedler we probably have 2 or 3 more wins, I really don't know what the deal is with Frerotte, I was happy when we got him, and now I'm regretting it. The guy is AJ Feeley with a little better decision making, but less accuracy which is not good at all.

So Grades......

D-line: A
LB's: A
DB's: C+
O-line: A+(Hudson Houck is a genius!!!!!)
RB's: A
WR's: C
QB: F

Overall, I'm very happy with the direction we're going. QB position will be addressed next year and will limit how far we can go this year. But what's with the defense allowing yet another opening drive score? That trend's gotta stop now! Right now our strength is the run, we can't be in catch up mode before the offense even takes the field! The D is starting to show cracks and it's age. Thank God Nick came when he did and started the youth movement (Crowder, Daniels, Roth, etc).
 
I would not say the defense played well the whole game, the Falcons had to 80 yards plus drives on them. And moved the ball up and down the field.

We made some big stops at the end, but I would not say they played well the whole game. The secondary gave Vick his best game passing all year!
 
We didn't give up a sack yesterday did we? The OL has arrive, the R&R boys are getting 5 ypc (tell that to Scott!) We are setting ourselves u for a very nice spot next year. A #1 WR, a new QB and an entire defense and we'll be rocking!
 
outlawd2u said:
Defense played well All game. Say what you want, but they were in Vicks face ALL DAY, and the coverage was actually pretty damn good for the most part, but Vick was on target on EVERY throw. O-line was awesome, 0 huries, pressures, etc.... on the QB is a hell of a feat for even the best O-lines against even the sorriest of defenses. RB/RW continue to look nothing short of Spectacular. WR's........couple of drops, but it's hard to say how well they actually played given the fact that the QB just doesn't have the ability to get them the ball whether they're open or not. QB........Frerotte has blown it again, it almost pains me to say this, but with Fiedler we probably have 2 or 3 more wins, I really don't know what the deal is with Frerotte, I was happy when we got him, and now I'm regretting it. The guy is AJ Feeley with a little better decision making, but less accuracy which is not good at all.

So Grades......

D-line: A
LB's: A
DB's: C+
O-line: A+(Hudson Houck is a genius!!!!!)
RB's: A
WR's: C
QB: F
The defence played well all game? Well, lets see.They gave up 17, I'll say it again, 17 1st down in the FIRST half alone.I wouldn't call that playing well.Yes, they did make a couple of stops in the last quater but they didn't have a very good game at all and I think the players will tell you that.Crowder had a couple of big hits and we played good defence on some occasion but they game up 27 1st downs and let the falcons control the ball for more than 38 minutes.I do agree on the other things and the o-line is really getting better afterall.Still, I respect your opinion about the defence but I don't think they played "well all game".And btw, they gave up a score on their first drive once again and thanks to that we're always playing catch up.

Ozzy rules!!
 
YES the D DID play pretty well all game. They were playing the #1 rushing offense, and The fastest QB on the Planet, and YES ATL got their yards, first downs etc.... but The D harrased Vick and was in his face the whole game. All the talk before the game was about how innacurate Vick was, and how he was a worse passer than Frerotte but Vick was on target ALL GAME. With the #1 Rushing offense in the league, and Vick throwing the ball like he was the ATL Offense is nearly unstoppable.
 
NJFINSFAN1 said:
I would not say the defense played well the whole game, the Falcons had to 80 yards plus drives on them. And moved the ball up and down the field.

We made some big stops at the end, but I would not say they played well the whole game. The secondary gave Vick his best game passing all year!
Yes, the defense gave up drives of 95 and 92. The first long drive they gave up was early in the game if I recall. We have a problem when we are giving up these long drives ealry in a game when the D isnt that tired. This can be attributed to poor reaction and reads. I can somewhat understand giving them up late in the game because with all the inaccurate throws Gus makes and all the stupid presnap penalites we make, puts us in 3rd and long situations and with Gus throwing inaccurately to our open recievers we will not convert and end up punting and relying on our tired defense once again. Half the reason we give up these plays is because of the O's inability to stay on field causing our D to get too tired, even with the depth. Atlanta had the ball for 37 minutes (66% of the game). As it stands our overall defense is right on the cusp of top ten and im hoping we will finish at least that. At least our defense is getting younger and with that comes inexperience but we must keep playing them. They will all pan out i think. excluding howard who once again gave up a TD to finnernan. Not to mention in everygame we have played, when the opposing team scores on their first drive we lose.
 
We still knowcked the S**t outta vick too which was nice to see
 
outlawd2u said:
I really don't know what the deal is with Frerotte, I was happy when we got him, and now I'm regretting it. The guy is AJ Feeley with a little better decision making, but less accuracy which is not good at all.


Gus is worse than AJ...AJ got better with the team (in 2004) as the OL progressed. This year, Gus hasn't changed since the Denver game...he has sucked since then...His decision making is getting worse and worse but, as you said, his accuracy is killing us...We are resigned to this torture because I don't think we'll see Sage or Lemon until we are completely out of the race...another 2 losses and we may start to see Gus get yanked in the middle of the game...
 
NJFINSFAN1 said:
I would not say the defense played well the whole game, the Falcons had to 80 yards plus drives on them. And moved the ball up and down the field.

We made some big stops at the end, but I would not say they played well the whole game. The secondary gave Vick his best game passing all year!

yeah I think it is a well known fact that we gave up every friggin 3rd down play for a first, but the D did do some nice changing up in hte second half.

The problem with the Defense to me is that we are blitzing too much early on and not putting guys back in coverage. it leaves the middle wide open. I cant believe people do not see that. especially against Vick.
 
outlawd2u said:
WR's........couple of drops, but it's hard to say how well they actually played given the fact that the QB just doesn't have the ability to get them the ball whether they're open or not. QB........Frerotte has blown it again, it almost pains me to say this, but with Fiedler we probably have 2 or 3 more wins, I really don't know what the deal is with Frerotte, I was happy when we got him, and now I'm regretting it. The guy is AJ Feeley with a little better decision making, but less accuracy which is not good at all.
frerotte is hands down the worst QB I've ever watched take snaps for the Miami Dolphins.
AJ could hit open receivers when he had time, frerotte can't even do that. Calling frerotte AJ Feeley is an insult to AJ Feeley.
 
Good analysis. Yes, I think Jay Fiedler was actually a better qb than Gus Ferrote. At least he had some games where he was really on and seldom had two bad games in a row. After a nice opening game, it's been mostly down for Gus. It's clear that qb is a huge need, perhaps more than LT and secondary help since that position can impact the game more than any other. If the Dolphins stay on pace for a 6-10 season, they might be able to package a deal and trade up for Leinart.

You're right about Vick being absolutely on target. The pass early in the game just past Schulters was an example of the type of game he had. It was an impressive effort for him considering he did have a lot of pressure throughout the game. Still, it seems to be more than just a trend that Miami's db's are a tad late on most plays. I'd actually like to see them play more physical, but then we'd probably give up more big plays as well.
 
Danny said:
The defence played well all game? Well, lets see.They gave up 17, I'll say it again, 17 1st down in the FIRST half alone.I wouldn't call that playing well.Yes, they did make a couple of stops in the last quater but they didn't have a very good game at all and I think the players will tell you that.Crowder had a couple of big hits and we played good defence on some occasion but they game up 27 1st downs and let the falcons control the ball for more than 38 minutes.I do agree on the other things and the o-line is really getting better afterall.Still, I respect your opinion about the defence but I don't think they played "well all game".And btw, they gave up a score on their first drive once again and thanks to that we're always playing catch up.

Ozzy rules!!

Watching the game I thought that the problem was more that Vick was freakishly on and the recievers were catching his high throws more than the defense playing bad. Atlanta averages 24 points a game with a very inconsistant Vick. Miami only gave up 17 points with a Vick who was on fire.
 
the defense is all smoke and mirrors. Anybody who knows about football will tell you a defense has to GET OFF THE FIELD ON THIRD DOWN!!!!

THis team has been HORRIBLE at that all year.
 
inFINSible said:
frerotte is hands down the worst QB I've ever watched take snaps for the Miami Dolphins.
AJ could hit open receivers when he had time, frerotte can't even do that. Calling frerotte AJ Feeley is an insult to AJ Feeley.

I don't know man, at first when I read your post I was Automatically ready to agree, but after thinking about it for a while........Feeley's decision making was just so bad it'd be hard for me to find a QB who was worse here in Miami, that and the fact that he got so Shook under pressure. Frerotte actually seems to do well under pressure, he looks calm in the pocket no matter what, but the thing is that it doesn't really make a difference if he can't make the plays whether guys are open, or covered, or he's under pressure or not.
 
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