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Only 6.5 percent of his Tannehills passes went in the 16-20 even though he had an 78%

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[FONT=&quot]Ryan Tannehill was accurate on 78 percent of his 16-20 yard range passes. Only 6.5 percent of his total attempts went to that range though.
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I've always felt we were lacking in the intermediate passing game (we throw a lot of passes under ten yards and take a shot deep sometimes) last year I felt we connected on a lot more intermediate routes with Parker and Matthews.

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[FONT=&quot]Should be closer to 10 percent at least. Problem is the Dolphins don't have good route runners to intermediate level.
I completely disagree with this even though our WR are not the best Intermediate route runners (Parker is actually really good on in breaking routes) there not much worse that teams like Atlanta or Green Bay. I think Gase needs to have a more agressive approach going into 2017.
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Tannehill was around one percent less accurate on passes to the 16-20 range than Carson Wentz was on passes behind the line of scrimmage.

Impressive.
 
Alot of that may have to do with what opposing defenses tried to take away from us.

Most teams will give you the short stuff and dare you to beat them deep, while defending that intermediate level.

Our receivers also need to get more separation in that part of the field. I also feel Tanny gets too locked into reading progressions (when he has the time) and doesnt survey the field enough.

I think we will see those numbers improve this year now that the team has had a full year under the new system.
 
There's bound to be a discrepancy when you throw the ball to Landry at or behind the LOS 90% of the time. At least we had Stills in as the lead blocker on 88% of those.

I kid. I kid. But seriously, the vertical passing game has to improve. So predictable when you do the same thing over and over again.
 
Caroo seems like a guy who could do the intermediate routes well, based on the Boldin comparisons. Matthews was a good intermediate guy too
 
so... you've narrowed down a five yard window that you think tannehill should throw more passes to? impressive cherry picking.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/14876/ryan-tannehill

i'm not going to narrow down his passing to a 5 yard window and say let's improve on that...

there are several down and distance or distance passes he needs to improve on, but his recieving corps will have a bit to say about that, the 10-20 yard range needs a lot of improvement, and I'd be willing to bet competent TE seam play would help loads with that. and according to these splits, the long bomb is no longer an issue with tannehill.
 
Wildbill3 said:
so... you've narrowed down a five yard window that you think tannehill should throw more passes to? impressive cherry picking.
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Whats impressive is your failure to realize Cian Fahey posted this during his evaluations of QBs around the league not me; and if you can't understand why intermediate passing is important than I suggest u educate yourself more on the game of football.
 
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Jerrysanders said:
[FONT="][URL="https://twitter.com/Cianaf"]Cian Fahey ‏@Cianaf [/URL] Feb 10More


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[FONT="]Ryan Tannehill was accurate on 78 percent of his 16-20 yard range passes. Only 6.5 percent of his total attempts went to that range though.
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I've always felt we were lacking in the intermediate passing game (we throw a lot of passes under ten yards and take a shot deep sometimes) last year I felt we connected on a lot more intermediate routes with Parker and Matthews.

[COLOR=#292F33][FONT="]Cian Fahey ‏@Cianaf Feb 10More


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[FONT="]Should be closer to 10 percent at least. Problem is the Dolphins don't have good route runners to intermediate level.
I completely disagree with this even though our WR are not the best Intermediate route runners (Parker is actually really good on in breaking routes) there not much worse that teams like Atlanta or Green Bay. I think Gase needs to have a more agressive approach going into 2017.
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Not blaming you, you're apparently quoting someone else, but those are stats without baseline. What's the average NFL QB's % of 16-20 yard passes. It smells like it may be 10% (Should be closer to 10 percent), but there's no stat. OTOH, "there (they're?) not much worse than ATL/GB" softens the 6.5%. What is the average QBs accuracy on those passes? Is 78% GREAT or average. With no stats, it seems Miami has above average on deep throws. I'll take "deep."
 
More a function of have such good running attack combined with the lack of a big body TE willing to get hit by the safety going over the middle

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How have you not been blocked by Cian? Seriously. He has become an utter joke among the football community.
 
fansinceGWilson said:
Not blaming you, you're apparently quoting someone else, but those are stats without baseline. What's the average NFL QB's % of 16-20 yard passes. It smells like it may be 10% (Should be closer to 10 percent), but there's no stat. OTOH, "there (they're?) not much worse than ATL/GB" softens the 6.5%. What is the average QBs accuracy on those passes? Is 78% GREAT or average. With no stats, it seems Miami has above average on deep throws. I'll take "deep."
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Yea the fact that he mentioned accurate on 78 percent of his 16-20 yard passes implies that its a high tier percentage for the QBs he's charted; and it does seem like 10 percent would be lower tier average, I do know Tony Romo had a 13.6% in the 21-20 to 30 range in 2014.
 
Sons Of Shula said:
How have you not been blocked by Cian? Seriously. He has become an utter joke among the football community.
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I don't have any problems with him especially when he puts that much time and work into the game. The fact that he brings advanced analytics to the game is commendable.
 
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