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Osi Umenyiora calling out Coyle's scheme

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I haven't seen this posted yet, but Osi calling out the scheme like many here have as the issue with the d line.

And in that discussion, Umenyiora put the line's struggles squarely on defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle."Ndamukong 'the beast from the east' Suh, from what I've seen he's still playing very well," Umenyiora said. "Cameron Wake is one of the best pass rushers we have in this league. I am going to put this squarely on the defensive coordinator's shoulders.
"What I've seen is Olivier Vernon dropping into coverage, I've seen Cameron Wake two-gapping, I've seen Ndamukong Suh two-gapping which is what you can't have with these perennial All-Pro pass rushers. You have to let them rush up the field. You have to let these rushers rush and the defensive coordinator hasn't done that.
"That's why they're underperforming. But I think they're going to get back to that this weekend."
The Dolphins run a base 4-3 defense that should typically use one-gap concepts for the four defensive linemen. That means a lineman is responsible for one gap. He must try to stop running plays there. He often rushes the passer from that gap.
The Dolphins do switch things up. And they do run two gap concepts. And in that regard, the defensive lineman is responsible for gaps on either shoulder. That means he must first read the play (pass or run, and to what side it is going if a run) and then react to the play through the appropriate gap.
Two gap defensive linemen typically read and react by definition.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...s-defense-issue-on-defensive-coordinator.html
 
Amazing that everyone sees the issue except for several dumb asses in South Florida. Mind boggling why they don't get back to basics. It's almost as if they hear the outside noise and are on a mission to prove they're smarter than everyone else.
 
I'll wait for the X's and O's guru's to chime in...
 
Coyle scheme has been what it is and won't change. Bend but don't break. Don't give up the big play. That type of scheme requires that the offense scores lots of points to put pressure on the other team. Neither unit is doing their job.

Seems like we need a philosophy change from the top. If you are going to be conservative on defense then you have to open your offense up. We are conservative in both phases and that doesn't work in the NFL.
 
Our offensive, defensive and oline scheme are terrible. That is why we have a losing record in the AFC east under Philbin.
 
Good post! We have to create one on one match ups. Just send the damn crib. They can't double and triple Suh when they have a LB running past them to sack the Q. Coyle's scheme is def the issue.
 
Coyle scheme has been what it is and won't change. Bend but don't break. Don't give up the big play. That type of scheme requires that the offense scores lots of points to put pressure on the other team.

That's a ridiculous thing to say. So the defense can't function unless we have a 17 point lead? Is that why it's struggling, cause it's built to play with a lead? In that case, how do you explain the games against Green Bay, Detroit, Denver (to name a few) from last year when the offense gave the team the lead only for the defense to give it back?

Look, I know our offense hasn't been good this year, not even close, but every time you post you low-key put the blame on the offense instead of admitting that our defense has been absolute garbage since week 12 of the 2014 season. GARBAGE. Putrid. Trash.

Like you said, both units need to be better. But when your defense makes Geno Smith, Blake Bortles and Tyrod Taylor look like Joe Montana, that to me says that Kevin Coyle's unit is by far our #1 issue. By. Far.
 
I'll wait for the X's and O's guru's to chime in...

You think there are x and o gurus on this site that know more than Osi, an NFL player?? Hahaha.. That's laughable, and disgusting

---------- Post added at 09:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:46 PM ----------

Did we change schemes from 2014, 2013? If so why? Wtf is Coyle doing?

We look like a 3-13 team right now.

It was supposed to be simplified from last year, but from some reports it sounds like at times it's actually even more dynamic than last year.
 
Play the cbs closer, play one gap on the dl, let reshad do what he does and roam the middle, and let the lbs cover the flats.
 
That's a ridiculous thing to say. So the defense can't function unless we have a 17 point lead? Is that why it's struggling, cause it's built to play with a lead? In that case, how do you explain the games against Green Bay, Detroit, Denver (to name a few) from last year when the offense gave the team the lead only for the defense to give it back?

Where did I ever say anything like that? A bend but don't break defense plays better with a lead. You can look at early last year to see examples of that. You don't need a 17 point lead but getting ahead allows the defense to get out of the bend but don't break and be more aggressive earlier in the game. As far as the GB and DET games the defense provided what should have been the game winning defensive stop. But the offense could not run out the clock and forced them to do it a second time against 2 of the top 10 QB's in the league. Not a recipe for success.

Look, I know our offense hasn't been good this year, not even close, but every time you post you low-key put the blame on the offense instead of admitting that our defense has been absolute garbage since week 12 of the 2014 season. GARBAGE. Putrid. Trash.

I believe that offense wins in the NFL these days. Any defense can be trumped by any offense that executes. The Patriots proved that in the SB against what was consider a great defense. Also I am a bettor. 45-50 points are scored in most NFL games. if you don't score 25 it is most likely the other team will. Until my offense starts consistently scoring 25+ per game I will think they are under performing. The defense was terrible to end the season. we can both agree on that.

Like you said, both units need to be better. But when your defense makes Geno Smith, Blake Bortles and Tyrod Taylor look like Joe Montana, that to me says that Kevin Coyle's unit is by far our #1 issue. By. Far.

We were in 2 of of those games you mention but our offense decided to fail to score when the game was on the line. Not much Coyle can do about that. You can't stop them every time. The Buffalo game sounded ugly. I watched the first series on DVR and plan on deleting.
 
This ENTIRE coaching staff is a bad joke. For what reason would you ever have this DL two gap? Why would you EVER have your CB play 9 yards off on a 3rd and 8 and then start back peddling off the snap?? Coyle plain out sucks.

Why would you ever ask your franchise QB to sit in the pocket and let routes develop against the Bills? ESPECIALLY when you saw the Patriots beat them with a quick passing scheme the week before??

I've said it before.... This whole staff has to go. If your coach has to watch film of other coaches to see how to handle timeouts..... He shouldn't be a HC in this league.
 
This ENTIRE coaching staff is a bad joke. For what reason would you ever have this DL two gap? Why would you EVER have your CB play 9 yards off on a 3rd and 8 and then start back peddling off the snap?? Coyle plain out sucks.

Why would you ever ask your franchise QB to sit in the pocket and let routes develop against the Bills? ESPECIALLY when you saw the Patriots beat them with a quick passing scheme the week before??

I've said it before.... This whole staff has to go. If your coach has to watch film of other coaches to see how to handle timeouts..... He shouldn't be a HC in this league.



I thought it was for two min drills. If you're right that's disgusting
 
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