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OT or Center what is the bigger need ?

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After reading Nublar7 (thanks to him) depht chart 2 obviuos need are OT and center.....but I don’t think we have enough pick to draft this 2 positions (with WR,Edge,LB and IMO safetie need)

So IYO does we absolutly need a OT in the mid round and who you like or does our OL priority is a center (humphrey, Meinerz ?
 
After reading Nublar7 (thanks to him) depht chart 2 obviuos need are OT and center.....but I don’t think we have enough pick to draft this 2 positions (with WR,Edge,LB and IMO safetie need)

So IYO does we absolutly need a OT in the mid round and who you like or does our OL priority is a center (humphrey, Meinerz ?

To state the obvious, Flo and staff know their evaluation of last year's starters and progress since. They already know OL priorities. They have a good idea what they have in Skura. I think there may be a day 2 OC pick, but not certain enough to wager
 
Looking at the roster, after the Hunt move from RT to G, we currently have zero starting caliber RT.

We have one starting caliber C (Skura), and possibly two (Deiter).

So RT isn't just a need, it's a dire must.
 
RT is a much bigger need.

Skura and Deiter are both competent enough to play center, and in any event center is like the easiest position in football to fill.

I don’t think we’re going either/or, though. I think we will almost definitely address both positions in the first three rounds.
 
To state the obvious, Flo and staff know their evaluation of last year's starters and progress since. They already know OL priorities. They have a good idea what they have in Skura. I think there may be a day 2 OC pick, but not certain enough to wager
Day 2 pick needs to be better than Deiter
 
RT is a much bigger need.

Skura and Deiter are both competent enough to play center, and in any event center is like the easiest position in football to fill.

I don’t think we’re going either/or, though. I think we will almost definitely address both positions in the first three rounds.
I agree RT is our biggest OL (and after WR our biggest team need). But I thought C was the QB of the OL. The C calls out blocking changes, reads the defense, etc.
 
I think we need both OT and OC in the top 3 rounds. Those are our biggest needs followed by RB, LB,, then to a lessor extent WR (we have 12 now, and Bowden came on strong at the of the year, we also get Albert Wilson back and Malcom Perry put a few flashes on tape).
 
after WR our biggest team need
I can't see WR as a need at all.

Parker, Preston, Fuller, Wilson, Hurns, Bowden, etc. is a pretty strong room.

But adding a gamebreaker (whether it be Chase, Smith, Waddle, etc.) sure is a big want! (for me).
 
Well I think need and positional value are different, so it's important to keep that perspective. Our biggest need at the moment is probably C because Skura is a gamble, whereas Jesse Davis is a competent RT with a few years left in the tank. So getting a C this year to cut his teeth under Skura and then take over in 2022 is probably the more immediate need. But the C position is a good round less important than the OT position. Given that RT is Tua's blindside, I'd say that long term RT is the bigger need, and clearly the higher positional value.

So, from my perspective, we should be looking at good but not elite OT prospects in round 2, with an eye towards preferring pass pro over run blocking because it will be Tua's blindside. We can take a less polished prospect since Davis gives us some time, but I'm looking at the #36 or #50 picks to get an OT that is good but not elite. Using those same picks on a C, I'd expect a truly elite player. You mention Creed Humphrey (my C#1) and Quinn Meinerz (my OG#1) as possible interior offensive line prospects, and those happen to be the two I like the most. Meinzerz can play C and Humphrey can play G, so they have the positional flexibility we require. If we could get either of those guys, I'd be ecstatic. But if both are available at #36 and I see a good OT, I'm taking the OT, because the position is just so much more important. Guys like Liam Eichenberg or Jalen Mayfield are not elite OT prospects, but I'd be happy with either at #36, and if one is available at #50 we should take him. If a kid like Christian Darrisaw or Sam Cosmi slips to #36, it's a no brainer, but I can't see Darrisaw falling that far.

I agree with both @Nublar7 and the OP @fastball83 that the C and RT positions are what we should be looking to get. But if Quinn Meinerz slides to #50 or lower, I'm taking him even if we already have a C or T.
 
A truly "devastating" C (especially in today's game) is like the lord of your OL IMO.

The dude I've loved for several years is Humphrey. His Pro day was insane! and

the concerns about him only being a "technician" were blown out! I don't think

there's any way the kid gets out of R1 -- and that means if Flo/Grier see things as

I do he has a high likelihood of being our pick at 18. He's that good. I'd bet he's

best C in the NFL in year or so. Total package. Bulletproof. Super strong. Mobile.

Outstanding technique (wrestler background). Smart. Tuff. Nasty.
 
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A truly "devastating" C (especially in today's game) is like the lord of your OL IMO.

The dude I've loved for several years is Humphrey. His Pro day was insane! and

the concerns about him only being a "technician" were blown out! I don't think

there's any way the kid gets out of R1 -- and that means if Flo/Grier see things as

I do he has a high likelihood of being our pick at 18. He's that good. I'd bet he's

best C in the NFL in year or so. Total package. Bulletproof. Super strong. Mobil.

Outstanding technique (wrestler background). Smart. Tuff. Nasty.
I'd love to have that kind of Center again.

I'm spoiled by the Jim Langers, Dwight Stephensons, and Mike Pounceys of our history.
 
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