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And that's why I (and many others) cant take your hyperbolic assessment of Joe Philbin seriously.

Lady Gaga.....yea ok....

You really think Ross has even one iota of football knowledge? He may know his real estate, but he is as clueless as they come when it comes to football matters. I'm sure Gaga has learned more about football by banging random players than Ross has acquired in his lifetime.


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He did try to hire Jim Harbaugh...




You can't see tangible evidence on Philbin, I can. Many people on these boards say that Tannehill is mediocre at best, why should I trust your opinion over theirs?

He tried to hire Harbaugh for one reason: Michigan. He is a huge Michigan homer.

It's not even worth discussing any more. Philbin is a dead end and it will be proven in time just like every other coach we have had where many of us retained blind faith in until it was no longer possible to ignore.


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You really think Ross has even one iota of football knowledge? He may know his real estate, but he is as clueless as they come when it comes to football matters. I'm sure Gaga has learned more about football by banging random players than Ross has acquired in his lifetime.

That's a very superficial statement at the least. If Ross is clueless on football matters, what does that make you?

No new NFL owner comes into the league being a football expert. The only way NFL owners become knowledgeable is by learning on the job, which I believe Ross has done.
 
That's a very superficial statement at the least. If Ross is clueless on football matters, what does that make you?

No new NFL owner comes into the league being a football expert. The only way NFL owners become knowledgeable is by learning on the job, which I believe Ross has done.

What has Ross ever done to give you any confidence he knows what he is doing with this football team? I just don't understand where the blind trust for Ross comes from...


Every football decision he has been involved in has been a disaster. The book is still open on Hickey, but I'm not holding my breath for the 10th choice to be a great GM.
 
Every football decision he has been involved in has been a disaster. The book is still open on Hickey, but I'm not holding my breath for the 10th choice to be a great GM.

You make no sense. In 2 sentences yo managed to contradict yourself. The Hickey hiring is a disaster, yet the book is still open on him - ok now I really cant take you seriously. You sound like you are more cut out for the PoFo forum....
 
You make no sense. In 2 sentences yo managed to contradict yourself. The Hickey hiring is a disaster, yet the book is still open on him - ok now I really cant take you seriously. You sound like you are more cut out for the PoFo forum....

Ummm what? I was implying that the Hickey decision was the one decision we still don't know yet. Everything else WAS a disaster...


If you have evidence to suggest otherwise, please share which football-related decision involving Ross was a success.
 
What has Ross ever done to give you any confidence he knows what he is doing with this football team? I just don't understand where the blind trust for Ross comes from...

Where does the blind hate come from? Because he hasn't won a SB in his first 7 years on the job? He tried to hire the best coach in the game, one of the few to get that right. For all we know Philbin could be the second best coach in the NFL, Hickey could be a top GM in the NFL, all we can do is wait and see at this point.
 
Where does the blind hate come from? Because he hasn't won a SB in his first 7 years on the job? He tried to hire the best coach in the game, one of the few to get that right. For all we know Philbin could be the second best coach in the NFL, Hickey could be a top GM in the NFL, all we can do is wait and see at this point.

It's been clusterduck after clusterduck with Ross! How can you not see that? There has been more embarrassment in Ross' few years of ownership than there was throughout the entire HISTORY of the Dolphins before that...


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It's been clusterduck after clusterduck with Ross! How can you not see that? There has been more embarrassment in Ross' few years of ownership than there was throughout the entire HISTORY of the Dolphins before that...


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Ross has not done well, but he is a fairly new owner. Further, he inherited an organization with many problems. Do you really expect a brand new owner to solve these problems without some big mistakes. If so, I would humbly suggest your expectations are too high.
 
I agree that the Bills game was mostly on the horrid OL performance, but coaching is not absolved. Sherman was calling an awful game, no adjustments whatsoever, and Philbin did nothing to stop it. No leadership.


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you couldn't hav stopped that train from derailing at buffalo no matter what adjustments you tried to make short of changing out personnel for upgrades
 
It's been clusterduck after clusterduck with Ross! How can you not see that? There has been more embarrassment in Ross' few years of ownership than there was throughout the entire HISTORY of the Dolphins before that...

All I see are stupid fans being outraged over stupid things, as if it should be the easiest thing in the world to transform a NFL franchise overnight from decades of mediocrity to instant champion. There is a strange phenomenon that happens where the longer we stay mediocre the less patient fans get with the new thing, I mean some fans already hate Hickey before his team even goes through training camp.
 
Ross has not done well, but he is a fairly new owner. Further, he inherited an organization with many problems. Do you really expect a brand new owner to solve these problems without some big mistakes. If so, I would humbly suggest your expectations are too high.

There is a difference between expecting an owner to fix everything and simply expecting them not to FUBAR everything they touch...


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All I see are stupid fans being outraged over stupid things, as if it should be the easiest thing in the world to transform a NFL franchise overnight from decades of mediocrity to instant champion. There is a strange phenomenon that happens where the longer we stay mediocre the less patient fans get with the new thing, I mean some fans already hate Hickey before his team even goes through training camp.

These are not stupid things:
- botching a front office firing TWICE
- botching a HC and GM search SEVERAL times
- keeping failed coaches and GMs in place far past the point when they have demonstrated their failure
- forming inane committees in a futile attempt to solve systemic problems that can only be solved by installing the right people in leadership positions
- relying on the opinions of SUITS as it pertains to the operation of a football team
- having no pulse as to the needs and desires of fans


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Ross has not done well, but he is a fairly new owner. Further, he inherited an organization with many problems. Do you really expect a brand new owner to solve these problems without some big mistakes. If so, I would humbly suggest your expectations are too high.

Ross is nowhere near as bad as Snyder or Jerry J. For that, we should all be grateful.
 
Ross is nowhere near as bad as Snyder or Jerry J. For that, we should all be grateful.

True, but he is still a bottom 10 owner at the moment. Only Jones, Snyder, Davis, Irsay and Haslam are worse IMO.


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I agree.

Philbin is a hierarchy guy. He shuffles some papers around and delegates to his coaches, and yells at Mike Sherman when something isn't working, and yet, frustratingly, can also micromanage at times (Sherman openly said Philbin intervened in play calling). He fires at will. We have people like this in our office, too. They are career corporate people, who excel at staying in good graces of the CEO, not making too many mistakes, avoiding blame, and having a very strong team surrounding them. Take them out of their element and ask them to innovate or accomplish something on their own and they show their mediocrity.

Lazor is a hands-on guy, and a teacher. He's doing what Philbin claimed he'd do when he got here - teach, innovate, hold players to a high standard. If we see existing players suddenly excelling where before they didn't (like Egnew), then we know that our coaches didn't know what they're doing. The comments I hear Lazor making, they're very specific, and you can almost see the wheels turning in his head. Right away he wasn't happy with the communication on the line and said we're losers if we don't fix it, NOW, not tomorrow. He was immediately not satisfied with Tanny's decision-making speed, accuracy and holding the ball too long. But not for the purpose of lowering the boom, but to correct the issues. These are fundamentals he's going to fix. The previous coach, Sherman, seemed to be focusing on Tannehill not making mistakes and drilling that into him. You don't win games by avoiding mistakes, you win games by making big plays. Otherwise, Henne would still be here!

And this is just my opinion.

Great post. Just want to say thanks. :)

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