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i hate how everyone on this site says our line is horrible. our stats were AMAZING last year for sacks allowed (top 5 in league) and a 4.4 rushing average. With mcintosh, carey, mckinney, james, and the addition of shelton i believe our oline will only improve. Hudson Huock is a Great oline coach. best of the best. he made the scrubs we had last year perform to their full potential. Lj shelton will become an elite LT with hudson coaching him. He has the size and mobility to succeed in this league and huock will make him come to fruition. We do NOT need to spend our first round pick on an olineman who will make a small improvement to this team. The oline will be able to give culpepper protection and ronnie chambers and mcmichael are nice options. However, having said that we need to address either WR or S first round. Another option on offense would make us much better than adding a great guard or center. A speedster like Holmes looks like he can succeed in the NFl after "small guys" smith and santana moss had career seasons. With Holmes, Chambers, and Mcmichael creating mismatches and problems in the secondary, Culpepper will be able to get the job done. Ronnie will be able to run and once again we will be in the top 5 in allowing sacks this season.

As much as i hate OSU, The miami dolphins select with the #16 pick Santonio Holmes, their key to the super bowl.
 
Holmes in the slot chambers wide right. Booker wide left and ronnie in the backfield. Culpepper gets the ball runs to the right. Holmes is running a fly while Chambers is cutting underneath him running a high post. The safety has to choose one to cover and he picks Holmes the clear deep threat. THe other safety had to respect culpeppers running game and was a spy on mcmichael. Chambers has one on one coverage streaking across the field. Culpepper to Chambers 35 yard completion. FIRST DOWN
 
InSabanWeTrust1 said:
i hate how everyone on this site says our line is horrible. our stats were AMAZING last year for sacks allowed (top 5 in league) and a 4.4 rushing average. With mcintosh, carey, mckinney, james, and the addition of shelton i believe our oline will only improve. Hudson Huock is a Great oline coach. best of the best. he made the scrubs we had last year perform to their full potential. Lj shelton will become an elite LT with hudson coaching him. He has the size and mobility to succeed in this league and huock will make him come to fruition. We do NOT need to spend our first round pick on an olineman who will make a small improvement to this team. The oline will be able to give culpepper protection and ronnie chambers and mcmichael are nice options. However, having said that we need to address either WR or S first round. Another option on offense would make us much better than adding a great guard or center. A speedster like Holmes looks like he can succeed in the NFl after "small guys" smith and santana moss had career seasons. With Holmes, Chambers, and Mcmichael creating mismatches and problems in the secondary, Culpepper will be able to get the job done. Ronnie will be able to run and once again we will be in the top 5 in allowing sacks this season.

As much as i hate OSU, The miami dolphins select with the #16 pick Santonio Holmes, their key to the super bowl.
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With the signing of McIntosh, and the resigning of McKinsey, I like our OL a lot more..we have some depth now, plus still a young and rising OL. Alibi hopefully will be able to help out, and berger can show a little more, that with the different combo's of lineman they can use should help this unit improve immeasely. I still wish we could have gotten a dominant center, wheather Hadnot can turn into that for us, remains to be seen. McK..still has to prove he can, otherwise I see him as a good backup at the guard position.
 
im not exaggerating. its not in a thread but its in how everyone views our line. why use a first round pick on a position that is very solid and tops of the league last year? its as simple as that. Besides Dbrick, there are questions with all the tackles. Justice is going to play RT in the NFL and why do we need to protect the right side when he can see the end running at him? I was just trying to make the point that our line deserves a lot more credit then it deserves and maybe a 4th or 7th round pick goes towards the C or G position.
 
InSabanWeTrust1 said:
im not exaggerating. its not in a thread but its in how everyone views our line. why use a first round pick on a position that is very solid and tops of the league last year? its as simple as that. Besides Dbrick, there are questions with all the tackles. Justice is going to play RT in the NFL and why do we need to protect the right side when he can see the end running at him? I was just trying to make the point that our line deserves a lot more credit then it deserves and maybe a 4th or 7th round pick goes towards the C or G position.
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pfffft, you are over-reacting, it is nothing like that. And if you wish to further argue THIS point then produce the posts.

I think our line needed improvement and apparently so did the head coach, it was the second thing he discussed after the season is over. What is hiding in those statistics you are alluding to is all the times we held in our ends and backs to help our weak line. You doggone right they were better than the year before but they were nothing to write home to momma about. There was a price to pay for those stats.
 
ill keep our fb in every time to help block if chambers and mcmike can put up those same statistics. sign holmes and youll get even more production. as long as 2 wr(chambers holmes), 1 te (mcmichael), and 1 flex (either 3rd wr or ronnie) as long we have 4 receiving options and 6 guys blocking you will see very nice results. theyll have their traditional 4 rushing, a lb on the fb blocking, the other 2 lbs on ronnie and mcmicahel, a safety as a spy on cpep, and the other safety is either gonna end up doubling chambers or holmes so one guy gets that 1 on1 coverage
 
cnc66 said:
pfffft, you are over-reacting, it is nothing like that. And if you wish to further argue THIS point then produce the posts.

I think our line needed improvement and apparently so did the head coach, it was the second thing he discussed after the season is over. What is hiding in those statistics you are alluding to is all the times we held in our ends and backs to help our weak line. You doggone right they were better than the year before but they were nothing to write home to momma about. There was a price to pay for those stats.
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I agree with your assessment. Our line was average but should continue to improve. The problem is that guys like James and McKinney and even Hadnot, to some degree, are quick but have balance issues. Which makes them fine on first contact, but they often lose their man on redirect. I imagine we're in the process of looking for guys with better balance, but so is every other team. FAs like, Stephen Neal from NE, raw but with great balance and Hutchinson obviously were early targets but not worth the dough. But check out Carey, he's got great balance, a little slow of foot and mind, but great balance. If we can find some more guys like that and keep them together we'll have a dominant o-line.
 
Mcmike would have been even MORE effective had he not been our best blocker and kept in to do just that. Saban addressed this already too, look for McMike to knock um dead this year. Saban also signed a blocking fullback for our run game too. Your sights are way too low bro, we will be absolutely unstoppable if our o-line gets it done.
 
cnc66 said:
pfffft, you are over-reacting, it is nothing like that. And if you wish to further argue THIS point then produce the posts.
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http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=97954&highlight=horrible+offensive+line

I could only find one with the words "Horrible Offensive line" but i found 3 with "horrible oline"

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=122500&highlight=horrible+o-line

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=105084&highlight=horrible+o-line

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=103428&highlight=horrible+o-line

I do sometimes think our o-line gets a bad rap from it's own fans although I don't agree that it's an overwhelming thing, most of the fans on here recognize that our o-line has improved drastically and is only getting better
 
InSabanWeTrust1 said:
i hate how everyone on this site says our line is horrible. our stats were AMAZING last year for sacks allowed (top 5 in league) and a 4.4 rushing average. With mcintosh, carey, mckinney, james, and the addition of shelton i believe our oline will only improve. Hudson Huock is a Great oline coach. best of the best. he made the scrubs we had last year perform to their full potential. Lj shelton will become an elite LT with hudson coaching him. He has the size and mobility to succeed in this league and huock will make him come to fruition. We do NOT need to spend our first round pick on an olineman who will make a small improvement to this team. The oline will be able to give culpepper protection and ronnie chambers and mcmichael are nice options. However, having said that we need to address either WR or S first round. Another option on offense would make us much better than adding a great guard or center. A speedster like Holmes looks like he can succeed in the NFl after "small guys" smith and santana moss had career seasons. With Holmes, Chambers, and Mcmichael creating mismatches and problems in the secondary, Culpepper will be able to get the job done. Ronnie will be able to run and once again we will be in the top 5 in allowing sacks this season.

As much as i hate OSU, The miami dolphins select with the #16 pick Santonio Holmes, their key to the super bowl.
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I agree with what you say about oyr O-line and Houck. I think they really brecame a non issue late last year, which is a good thing. I mean, after a couple of bad years, they really were not losing games for us like in teh past. that's coaching and chemistry between the guys on the line.
However, I'd rather get another good lineman than a safety in the first round. Actually, I'd rather draft a corner, just because who knows how Will Poole will be, and we may need a young guy for depth, or the future. Unless tehre's a superb safety, i'd rather not use the first on one. Maybe if we can trade down and get more picks, our firts pick could be used on teh right safety.

Honestly, by plugging some major holes in FA this year, i think Saban has really put himself in good position to get the BPA with each pick, whether that's a OLB, O-lineman, CB, S, or whatever. Because. looking at where we are now (assuming we grab a decent backup QB) I think we will field a good team no matter what position we draft. I don't see a wekness that can bring this team down by itself. The coaches can work with what we have, and help cover what we still need, even if we don't draft everyone we all want.
 
Scott Andrew said:
http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=97954&highlight=horrible+offensive+line

I could only find one with the words "Horrible Offensive line" but i found 3 with "horrible oline"

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=122500&highlight=horrible+o-line

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=105084&highlight=horrible+o-line

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=103428&highlight=horrible+o-line

I do sometimes think our o-line gets a bad rap from it's own fans although I don't agree that it's an overwhelming thing, most of the fans on here recognize that our o-line has improved drastically and is only getting better
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ok only one of these really said WE had a horrible O-line, which is Total BS, as this thread states
 
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