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Our worst nightmare!

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Even though we all know that Mel Kiper isn't a genius, but if his 4 round projection is correct, the Patriots will have all the players we want. I just his draft guide in the mail today.

Miami Dolphins
25 Malcolm Jenkins
44 Jarron Gilbert DL San Jose St.
56 Clint Sintim
87 Cedric Peerman RB Virginia
108 Brandon Tate WR North Carolina

New England Pariots
23 Donald Brown
34 Connor Barwin
47 Sean Smith
58 Pat White
89 Cornelius Ingram
97 Scott McKillop

Ouch that's a great draft.
 
So is Malcolm Jenkins dropping like a rock or what? I didn't think he would fall to us. OSU typically puts out good CB's. I think Jenkins will be good, maybe not spectacular but he should be a good starter for many years.
 
yeah but kiper's drafts are barely ever right. so dont count on it
 
I agree Kiper used to be good at what he does but that was many, many, years ago. The guy is currently out of touch and to wrapped up in himself to be of any use.
 
The best CB in the draft, the best 3-4 DL in the draft, and the most experienced 3-4 OLB in the draft all on the first day?

Ummm...where's the downside to that? How does that qualify as a "nightmare"?
 
The best CB in the draft, the best 3-4 DL in the draft, and the most experienced 3-4 OLB in the draft all on the first day?

Ummm...where's the downside to that? How does that qualify as a "nightmare"?

Took the words out of my mouth. Some people are just :crazy:
 
I say nightmare b/c the Patriots get Barwin, Smith, White and Ingram all highly targeted by Miami.
 
I say nightmare b/c the Patriots get Barwin, Smith, White and Ingram all highly targeted by Miami.

The Patriots have a billion picks, and as a 3-4 team, not to mention headed by a coach who coached with Parcells all those years, we have to face the fact that the Patriots are going to pick up more than a handful of players that we've been talking about as Miami fans. That's just the way it is.

But I will say that the way Kiper has it laid out Miami would get an awful nice haul while the Patriots' haul would be good, but not great.

I have never been a great fan of Donald Brown and I don't see him as a first round worthy tailback. I don't believe he carries NFL power and strength under his pads, and he has lacks both vision and patience. For me, I felt a lot the same way about Joseph Addai but the one thing Addai surely had was tremendous size and power. Donald Brown lacks both.

Whoever takes Connor Barwin should be prepared for him not to contribute much in 2009 except for special teams and maybe some Tight End work. His defensive instincts are nil and his hand technique worse. He's a physical phenom that learns pretty quickly and has a good motor, but as quickly as he learns he also has a whole lot of ground to cover, way more than many of these other guys.

It would be hard to watch Sean Smith go off to the Patriots but he's also not their kind of cornerback and so I think they would be taking him as a safety, which IMO would be a mistake. Belichick has absolutely no issue with smaller corners that stay in the hip pocket and have tremendous COD skills. If they took Sean Smith, I think it would be to play safety and this is a former All American tailback in high school that played receiver for two years and then played cornerback for two years. He seems to read receivers well and break quickly, but as a safety? He's barely got one foot on the defensive side of the football as things stand playing cornerback, and now he's got to go to a position where defensive instincts, field study and tackling reign supreme? Ok, do that if you want, but you won't catch me doing it. I'll keep him at CB or WR.

Pat White doesn't scare me, I don't care who takes him. He won't be an NFL quarterback IMO, and at WR he will be playing a position he's never played. The Patriots aren't going to run any kind of Wildcat stuff. Why would they? In 2007 with Brady in the game they had the best offense the NFL had ever seen. Ever. It was still top 5 in 2008 even with a high school quarterback at the helm.

Cornelius Ingram, now that would be disappointing. He's a good player. But, now we're talking about two Wildcat QB type players...for an offense that I promise you absolutely does not need the Wildcat.

Scott McKillop is a decent player. But, not sure if he's impact or anything like that.

Meanwhile Cedric Peerman might be the most athletic back in this draft even on a size-weighted basis as he's 220 pounds and basically a 4.37 type of speedster that was an utterly fantastic kick returner, not to mention a really good back. The biggest knocks on him are hand size and injury history. The current regime doesn't seem to be phased by injury history because they think their vaunted strength and conditioning program will turn injury prone players into men of oak (whether it's true or not, it still seems to be what they think). And the hand thing, well Ricky Williams has small hands and one fumble at an All Star game does not make Peerman's small hands proven to be in doubt.

As for Brandon Tate, he's got good size, he's fast, and he outproduced Hakeem Nicks more times than not when the two were on the same field. Need I say more than that? I'm not saying he's better than Nicks because he isn't, but he is surely a good find in the 100's.
 
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That would be an INSANE draft for Miami . . . I take it right now.

Like CK said . . . best CB and 3-4 DE in the draft . . . plus the most experienced 3-4 OLB. And u grab an athletic RB who also can return full time on kickoffs and a potential steal with Brandon Tate at WR. Hell we pick up Frantz Joseph at ILB and take a NT prospect we can call it a night.
 
i would take Ron Brace if he is still there over jarron Gilbert or even Kenny Britt oven Jarron Gilbert
 
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