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Page from NE's history book.

A lot is made of the comparisons between Belichick and Saban. Well I guess another thread on the subject won't hurt. Sorry for the length.

To start off, check out the regular season record of the New England Patriots for the following years:

'97 10-6 ... decline... one year remov'd from SB loss, 1-1 in playoffs.
'98 9-7 ... further decline... 0-1 in plaoyffs.
'99 8-8 .... mo' further decline... NO playoffs... (Tuna finally melts).
'00 5-11 (Belicheck era begins.)
'01 11-5 ***** SB victory.
'02 9-7 still competitive - couple bad breaks that yr.
'03 14-2 SB victory.
'04 14-2 SB victory.

***** NOTABLE: Started the 2001 season 1-3, were 4-4 at mid-season, but their defense allowed 20 points only twice all season. Also, Drew Bleedso's immobile behind got hurt after only week 2, opening the way for... Tom Brady. And this was truly addition via subtraction, folks (Drew sucked then and he stick sucks today - sorry, Cowboys fans - you'll soon find out.).

Now look (if you dare) at the last few Miami Dolphin years:

'00 11-5 ... already in decline w/Wanny at the helm... 1-1 in playoffs.
'01 11-5 ... further decline... 0-1 in playoffs.
'02 9-7 ... mo' further decline... NO playoffs (Still unbelievable with all we had going that year - anybody else remember just how good we look after beating Denver on Sunday night? Just goes to show you how much injuries as well as poor depth really can hurt a team [Lucas, wherever you are today, you f***ing SUCK like no QB has ever sucked... EVER! :fire: ].) Also, this last loss, ironically, against NE at the end of the season was the last straw for me - I absolutely knew then and there that with Wanny as coach we were NEVER getting to a SB... ever.
'03 10-6 ... but no playoffs - only second time in NFL history for 10+ win team.
'04 4-12 ... enough said, though I will add that I think we looked remarkably like a 'first year' Belichick team while under Bates there at the end of the season - tuff D, workmanlike O.

Based on all this, I see a lot of similarities in the "general direction" the team is heading in... especially in regard to our team's success starting with the defense. The main difference, to me, is that the Patsies found a solid QB and then acquired a featured RB, whereas we have perhaps TWO excellent backs (for the moment) and are still searching for a solid QB.

Now, finally, here's a quote from the Patsies web site:

"Once he became Patriots head coach, Belichick needed just one season to successfully implement his plan for success. In 2001, his second season in charge, he rebounded from a 5-11 record in 2000 to improve to 11-5, tying the franchise regular season record for wins. With a 20-17 victory over the Rams in Super Bowl XXXVI, the Patriots tied the franchise's then-record of 14 overall wins."

I say we all just chill and enjoy watching the team be competitive, go through it's inevitable learning curve and then, by year's end and into next year, start watching the fun really begin. It will come. You can just tell in almost everything the team is doing. It's all in the works. But everyone has to be a little more patient. Also, everyone has to believe and remain positive, whatever the score - whatever the record. Saban is here for a reason (long term, people). And it ain't for "playing not to lose". We already know where that got us.

Here's to winning! GO 'PHINS!!!
 
finfan54 said:
Belechick is afraid of Saban. yessiree!

Perhaps. And, then again, after back-to-back Super Bowl victories AND 14-2 records... maybe he's happy to finally start facing some competition??? :goof: :D :lol:
 
'02 8-8 ... In 2002 Miami went 10 - 6 should have gone 12 and 4 :yell: :evil: but It's a new day. :evil:
 
we did not go 8-8 my man...more like 9-7 and i believe we had a 10-6 in their somewhere
 
2002- We went 9-7 and missed playoffs because of the NE game and lost a 3 way division tiebreaker with NE and NYJ. I feel that, that was OUR YEAR if it wasn't for injuries.

2003
- We went 10-6 and missed out on playoffs because of a tiebreaker with Denver.
 
painnotpleasure said:
2002- We went 9-7 and missed playoffs because of the NE game and lost a 3 way division tiebreaker with NE and NYJ. I feel that, that was OUR YEAR if it wasn't for injuries.

2003
- We went 10-6 and missed out on playoffs because of a tiebreaker with Denver.

Thanks everybody, corrections made.

My overall point holds the same - years of mediocrity in a gradual decline broken finally by the injection of a totally new "plan for success" by a new head coach.

And, yes, 2002 was our best chance and I think if we'd made the playoffs and performed as we had done against Denver... we could've beaten anyone that year... all the way to the SB. Still, I wonder if Wanny would not have been out-coached, yet again, despite superior talent (players).
 
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