NFL Network just had a segment where they picked a player who was the best value in the draft. Mike Lombardi picked Pat White as the best value in the draft. I guess our FO is a little better than some of you thought.
Pat White just picked as best value.
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cuban_refugee
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I dont' mind the pick. We have our no. 3 QB, punt returner/WR/RB. I think it now allows us to keep extra players at different positions when our 53 players are set.
ADavieDolphin
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oh the wildcat is going to be sooo nasty this year.
Think the difficult part for a lot of us and were not sure where and how often he will be used. The obvious position is QB in the Wildcat. If that's it I would be disappointed to pick a second rounder for 6 or 7 plays a game. No one knows if he can play WR as he never did it in college and I don't recall seeing him there even in a all star game. It's a big reach to assume a guy that has never played the position can play it in the NFL. Lastly people are calling him a KR/PR even though did not return kicks and I not sure he's fast enough to be great there. I love this kid's intangibles, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have reservations about the pick.
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I watched Pat White's vid and I cannot help but think we are seriously thinking him more at QB. Apparently, when we draft in bunches to create competition, we do it also at QB with the system design in place. Henne might be a little worried since the NFL rules on the third Qb creates a PT prob.
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I like the NFL Network vid that was on miamidolphins.com where Gruden says that now that Pat White is running the Wildcat, the Safeties can no longer blitz or stuff all the running lanes because PW is throwing the ball downfield and doing so with great accuracy and velocity.
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Yeah everyone is acting like we reached all draft yet I would say that other that hartline and our last pick we got great value. I mean trash turner all you went but a worse route runner and someone who played much worse competition( Barden) went two picks before him.
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FYI, the guy that says White is the best value in the draft also compared Ronnie Brown to Reggie Bush and says that he will never be a capable starter.
That being said, at worst what we get with White is depth at WR and an annoying Wildcat weapon. At best we get a Doug Flutie kind of QB. Either way, I'm fine with the pick.
That being said, at worst what we get with White is depth at WR and an annoying Wildcat weapon. At best we get a Doug Flutie kind of QB. Either way, I'm fine with the pick.
I was angry when the Dolphins picked Pat White but let me try to explain why I'm starting to come around on this guy. You say you can't understand why we would take a guy that will only be on the field for six or seven plays a game. Let's say for arguments sake that you are right and he goes in for the wildcat package for only that many plays. A few of those plays could be huge explosive plays that change the game. How many times in a game does a great wide receiver make a play to change a game? Maybe three four times. A great wide receiver can also influence a game by drawing coverage and opening up opportunities for other players on the field. I think that is exactly what can happen for the Dolphins when you put the ball in Pat White's hands in the wild cat. He can run, throw or even split out wide. And the beauty of the whole thing is you really don't have to worry about him getting hurt and ruining your season, because he isn't your starting QB. This is all the worst case scenario. Pat White might be able to develop as a receiver, a return man, or a quarterback all while giving the Dolphins an extra dimension in their wild cat offense.
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Most experts were saying Pat White is the 2nd or 3rd best player in the open field in the whole draft. Pat White is one hell of an athlete. I think he will be great on returns.
burger13
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What are they smoking. All the experts here have already labeled him the reach of the draft (barely edging every other player the Dolphins drafted).
Cmon Burger, use your head! Rickd13 is right. Now let me expand a little on what he said. The real value in Pat White is Pat White himself. It's like John Gruden said, defenses took a safty out and added another defender to fill the gaps. Now they can't do that. Defensive coordinators now have to spend more time game planning for the single wing or wildcat. Even if we only use 6 time or less they have to pay attention to it. If they don't we will score and score and score from that formation. Think about this...Our opponants have to game plan and spend time practicing for something we may only use less than 10% of the time. That will make the rest of our offensive game plan even more effective. That's what having Pat White on the team does. I don't care what Scouts inc or the touts say. Pat White was not going to last past the 2nd round. He is to good of an athlete. The man passed for 4000 yards and ran for 4000 yards. Someone was going to take him. I'm happy it was us.
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I was totally joking...ripping on all the finheaven experts that have already labeled this a horrible draft.
I don't think so
The Pat White pick is the pick that I consider the worst pick in dolphins history, if defenses around the league don't consider Pat White a top receiver, forget the wild cat especially as a surprise coming out of the huddle. From the wild cat used last year, you will be replacing Ricky Williams or one of our top receivers to send Pat White on to the field, sorry but I don’t see how replacing superior position players with Pat White would make the plays more efficient. I also think that Pat White will bring controversy into the locker room and the franchise in the future, a running quarterback vs a drop back quarterback, a great leader of men (PW) vs. the suppose leader of the team (CH) and of curse the element of race. The worst pick ever. Running quarterbacks in the NFL have not been successful because of it’s inherit selfish nature which disorganizes the thought process and preparation of all the other players involve in any given play.
The Pat White pick is the pick that I consider the worst pick in dolphins history, if defenses around the league don't consider Pat White a top receiver, forget the wild cat especially as a surprise coming out of the huddle. From the wild cat used last year, you will be replacing Ricky Williams or one of our top receivers to send Pat White on to the field, sorry but I don’t see how replacing superior position players with Pat White would make the plays more efficient. I also think that Pat White will bring controversy into the locker room and the franchise in the future, a running quarterback vs a drop back quarterback, a great leader of men (PW) vs. the suppose leader of the team (CH) and of curse the element of race. The worst pick ever. Running quarterbacks in the NFL have not been successful because of it’s inherit selfish nature which disorganizes the thought process and preparation of all the other players involve in any given play.