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Ok, everyone is going to bash the WR's because they only made 6 catches. Great. While the Dolphins don't have the best WR corps in the NFL, they aren't that bad.

The problem is, Chad Pennington (1) can't make a throw to the outside if it's more than 10 yards deep and (2) only looks toward the middle of the field and the flats.

Re-watch the game if you can .. after making a play fake, Pennington almost always looks to the middle of the field (tight end) or the flats first. He had 20 completions to tight ends and RB's today. It's not because the WR's are never getting open. It's because that's where he focuses. Why does he focus that way? Because he knows his limitations.

The only deep passes he tried to throw were WAY off the mark. On the final pass play in the end zone, the pass took forever to get there. He just doesn't have the arm strength to get it out there and lead a receiver.

While he is pretty accurate (you wouldn't have known that from seeing his first few pass attempts though) .. he will be a detriment in the vertical passing game, including deep outs.

Additionaly, Pennington wasn't getting enough time in the pocket today to allow WR's to get open. In the preseason, he and Ginn had pretty good chemistry. But that was against vanilla defenses with time to throw.

For the Dolphins WR's to have any success, Pennington is going to have to have time to throw (captain obvious). That said, adequate time is more important in Pennington's case because he doesn't have adequate arm strength and he knows it. Without sufficient time, he won't ever survey the field beyond the middle or flats (shorter throws). The pass that Favre threw to Cotchery for the first TD was something our WR's would never see because of the lack of time to allow the route to develop and due to Pennington's inability to get enough on that type of throw.

IMO, the coaching staff is going to have to run more slants, in routes, and drags with our WR's when Penny is in the game. Secondly, they are going to have to get Henne some time so that they can keep the defense honest with some deeper routes.
 
For receiver to get open you need time alot of time he didnt have enough for them to get open. and TE and RB need half the time to get open. he can throw over 20 yards his deep throws we not very good today but Ginn was doubled he had a corner and a safety over top Cam made 3 catches thats kinda what i expected. But i could care less who he trows to if they are open they are the person to throw to yes he may not be the best 20+ yards but i will take a 6-10 yards per completion keep the chains moving especially for an accurate passer
 
Did you not see the out pass to Ginn on one of the last drives of the game. Lets not make shet up, the guy doesnt have a great arm but he made the throws he had to today. WRs got no seperation, Henney went away from the run, and the rookie line had issues. If Penny plays bad I will be the first to admit it but that was not the case.

We need to stop drinking the Jet fan coolaid on Penny and judge from what he does for us. It is what it is, we need Wrs, and we need a big one for game ending scenerios like today.
 
Recievers were not getting open. I dont know whats up with Ginn, But hes gotta do something. He Was locked down all game!
 
I'd like to hear from someone that was at the game to see if the receivers were open or not.
 
I disagree, I think Ginn got some seperation a few times, but is was down field.
 
I'd like to hear from someone that was at the game to see if the receivers were open or not.

I was at the game, Ted Ginn is Soft. All chad had was the dump downs, cause these guys cant get open..
 
Ok, everyone is going to bash the WR's because they only made 6 catches. Great. While the Dolphins don't have the best WR corps in the NFL, they aren't that bad.

The problem is, Chad Pennington (1) can't make a throw to the outside if it's more than 10 yards deep and (2) only looks toward the middle of the field and the flats.

Re-watch the game if you can .. after making a play fake, Pennington almost always looks to the middle of the field (tight end) or the flats first. He had 20 completions to tight ends and RB's today. It's not because the WR's are never getting open. It's because that's where he focuses. Why does he focus that way? Because he knows his limitations.

The only deep passes he tried to throw were WAY off the mark. On the final pass play in the end zone, the pass took forever to get there. He just doesn't have the arm strength to get it out there and lead a receiver.

While he is pretty accurate (you wouldn't have known that from seeing his first few pass attempts though) .. he will be a detriment in the vertical passing game, including deep outs.

Additionaly, Pennington wasn't getting enough time in the pocket today to allow WR's to get open. In the preseason, he and Ginn had pretty good chemistry. But that was against vanilla defenses with time to throw.

For the Dolphins WR's to have any success, Pennington is going to have to have time to throw (captain obvious). That said, adequate time is more important in Pennington's case because he doesn't have adequate arm strength and he knows it. Without sufficient time, he won't ever survey the field beyond the middle or flats (shorter throws). The pass that Favre threw to Cotchery for the first TD was something our WR's would never see because of the lack of time to allow the route to develop and due to Pennington's inability to get enough on that type of throw.

IMO, the coaching staff is going to have to run more slants, in routes, and drags with our WR's when Penny is in the game. Secondly, they are going to have to get Henne some time so that they can keep the defense honest with some deeper routes.

Great post. You have an excellent grasp on Pennington's game.
 
Ok, everyone is going to bash the WR's because they only made 6 catches. Great. While the Dolphins don't have the best WR corps in the NFL, they aren't that bad.

The problem is, Chad Pennington (1) can't make a throw to the outside if it's more than 10 yards deep and (2) only looks toward the middle of the field and the flats.

Re-watch the game if you can .. after making a play fake, Pennington almost always looks to the middle of the field (tight end) or the flats first. He had 20 completions to tight ends and RB's today. It's not because the WR's are never getting open. It's because that's where he focuses. Why does he focus that way? Because he knows his limitations.

The only deep passes he tried to throw were WAY off the mark. On the final pass play in the end zone, the pass took forever to get there. He just doesn't have the arm strength to get it out there and lead a receiver.

While he is pretty accurate (you wouldn't have known that from seeing his first few pass attempts though) .. he will be a detriment in the vertical passing game, including deep outs.

Additionaly, Pennington wasn't getting enough time in the pocket today to allow WR's to get open. In the preseason, he and Ginn had pretty good chemistry. But that was against vanilla defenses with time to throw.

For the Dolphins WR'sto have any success, Pennington is going to have to have time to throw (captain obvious). That said, adequate time is more important in Pennington's case because he doesn't have adequate arm strength and he knows it. Without sufficient time, he won't ever survey the field beyond the middle or flats (shorter throws). The pass that Favre threw to Cotchery for the first TD was something our WR's would never see because of the lack of time to allow the route to develop and due to Pennington's inability to get enough on that type of throw.

IMO, the coaching staff is going to have to run more slants, in routes, and drags with our WR's when Penny is in the game. Secondly, they are going to have to get Henne some time so that they can keep the defense honest with some deeper routes.

that's what you call a "gameplan"

Ginn and Camarillo vs. Revis and Lowery is not a good matchup, at all


Henning wanted to establish the run game and then exploit the MLBs and Safeties by doing playactions to the TEs in the middle.
Our run game didn't work that well but the jets still thought we were going to run the ball and that's why we had to exploit their only weakness.

While our WR corps isn't all that bad, the jets' secondary is, on the contrary, one of the best in the NFL... you put that secondary with any elite pass rush of the league and you have a no-contest best defense in the nfl (against the pass, that is)

pennington did what he was coached to do, and it ended up pretty good, even though we didn't win you cannot deny the great success our TEs had. If we had a glimpse of a running game, that game was ours hands down
 
Pennington has plenty of arm strength. That argument is old and lame. He's the best QB in town since Marino.
 
For receiver to get open you need time alot of time he didnt have enough for them to get open. and TE and RB need half the time to get open. he can throw over 20 yards his deep throws we not very good today but Ginn was doubled he had a corner and a safety over top Cam made 3 catches thats kinda what i expected. But i could care less who he trows to if they are open they are the person to throw to yes he may not be the best 20+ yards but i will take a 6-10 yards per completion keep the chains moving especially for an accurate passer
The Jets were in man coverage about 80% of the time and the rest was a zone.Revis did to him what he did to TO and Moss last season.They never doubled Ginn in this game.........
 
Ok, everyone is going to bash the WR's because they only made 6 catches. Great. While the Dolphins don't have the best WR corps in the NFL, they aren't that bad.

The problem is, Chad Pennington (1) can't make a throw to the outside if it's more than 10 yards deep and (2) only looks toward the middle of the field and the flats.

Re-watch the game if you can .. after making a play fake, Pennington almost always looks to the middle of the field (tight end) or the flats first. He had 20 completions to tight ends and RB's today. It's not because the WR's are never getting open. It's because that's where he focuses. Why does he focus that way? Because he knows his limitations.

The only deep passes he tried to throw were WAY off the mark. On the final pass play in the end zone, the pass took forever to get there. He just doesn't have the arm strength to get it out there and lead a receiver.

While he is pretty accurate (you wouldn't have known that from seeing his first few pass attempts though) .. he will be a detriment in the vertical passing game, including deep outs.

Additionaly, Pennington wasn't getting enough time in the pocket today to allow WR's to get open. In the preseason, he and Ginn had pretty good chemistry. But that was against vanilla defenses with time to throw.

For the Dolphins WR's to have any success, Pennington is going to have to have time to throw (captain obvious). That said, adequate time is more important in Pennington's case because he doesn't have adequate arm strength and he knows it. Without sufficient time, he won't ever survey the field beyond the middle or flats (shorter throws). The pass that Favre threw to Cotchery for the first TD was something our WR's would never see because of the lack of time to allow the route to develop and due to Pennington's inability to get enough on that type of throw.

IMO, the coaching staff is going to have to run more slants, in routes, and drags with our WR's when Penny is in the game. Secondly, they are going to have to get Henne some time so that they can keep the defense honest with some deeper routes.

One of the better posts I have read in some time...thank you
 
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