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So says new Florida Gators coach Urban Meyer, fresh off his 12-0 season with Utah.

Meyer also said, "The offense for (QB) Josh Harris, who's now with the Baltimore Ravens, at Bowling Green was different than the offense for (QB) Alex Smith (of Utah). It's an adaptable offense that's not hard to learn."

The next sentence was the phrase in which I titled my thread. And he said all this with authority.

BTW - I heard all this on the news just now. But I'm sure these quotes and more can be found on the web. After five years of Wanny and four years with Jimmy, Urban Meyer's words really spoke to me.

You don't put square pegs in round holes. Period. Why is this so hard for NFL so many coaches to understand?? I guess they all feel that their scheme is like Mike Shannahan's running game.

But I would be remiss if I didn't mention the fact that things seem to be changing with Jim Bates aboard. Tops on that list is the offensive line abandoning the man-only schemes to more zone protection and simplification for these young players.

I just thought I'd pass this along. It's not often we get to hear "sweet nothings" like this.
 
Bill Belichick/John Fox personify this.

Spurrier, DW, Coughlin etc. are the opposite and they fail.

They think its "their scheme of no scheme", no adaptation and no change.
 
You can add Shottenheimer to that list right next to DW until he realized that "marty ball" will always fall.

When coaches don't adapt their scheme to their player, the coach fails to utilize the players strengths. There are times when a player will fit the coaches scheme perfectly, which is great, but the most common scenario is that the player is not being utilized to his full potential because simply, its not his style. Stubborn coaches won't adapt or utilize those players' true talents and in turn they fail.

Talk about a square peg in a round hole - look at Mike Vick. He may be unstoppable in that WCO one day, but as of now, boy are those coaches limiting his skill level. Vick needs to be treated like Farve, imo.

I want our next coach to be a John Fox type coach, or even a Jim Bates type coach.
 
This is one thing i cant understand why pro coaches dont get this. hell, norv turner did a crappy job adjusting to what we had........
 
Nappy Roots said:
This is one thing i cant understand why pro coaches dont get this. hell, norv turner did a crappy job adjusting to what we had........
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Sad thing is, Norv WOULD have done a crappy job at it - if he'd even tried!

I've become convinced that every one of these JJ guys all bought their own press when they were with Dallas, and didn't realize that they were being made to look good by the exceptional players brought in by JJ's wheeling & dealing and great drafts, not so much their schemes or their coaching.
 
FiN.in.RI said:
You can add Shottenheimer to that list right next to DW until he realized that "marty ball" will always fall.
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Marty Ball - great example. He finally threw that idea out, and look how the Chargers are doing now. Marty ball, as Shotty put it, "is dead."
 
The problem is that there aren't very many good coaches out there and too many teams needing them,so all the crap gets recycled to team after team and most aren't good enough to be able to adjust their schemes to fit their players.

With all the expansion teams of late, the NFL has really diluted the coaching pool. I hope we can pick up a diamond in the rough as all the has beens out there are no better than Wanny.

That is why I am holding my breath to see how Bates turns out and see if losing the shackles of Wanny brings out the ability everyone has said was there in him.
 
Hey Muck What's up buddy, when did we implement Zone Blocking to our Scheme? I guess the light bulb finally went on. Anyhow, Wise did say it will take the Oline until Dec. to Gel. In the passing face we are getting alot better but on the running side of things we still need major improvement. Is it as simple as us just getting a better RB? And also muck I read one of your ealrier post stating how Travis Minor seems to be slow to the open holes, I think that has to be where the High Ankle Sprain is effecting him.
 
Nappy Roots said:
This is one thing i cant understand why pro coaches dont get this. hell, norv turner did a crappy job adjusting to what we had........
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One word: ego.
 
Muck I gotta contradict you on this one. I'll give you a famous example too.

Tom Landry.
 
think about a guy like Brian Billick. He is an offensive minded coach and loves to throw the football. That was his gameplan as OC in Minnesota. Now look at his team, he does what he has to do. He adapts as good as anyone out there. Also he protects his young QB in schemes that help him. Low mistake, short passing, not too much pressure, etc. And as a result I think Boller has really started to grow. Just htink back to when Anthony Wright started last year. All of a sudden he was just throwing it non-stop and going deep.

He adjusts to his players. I think more than anything Wanny and Jimmy got players to fit them. But as a result when things changed (Ricky left) Wanny was still intent on running the ball and had no idea of how to change his ways.
 
CRAZYDOLFAN305 said:
Hey Muck What's up buddy, when did we implement Zone Blocking to our Scheme? I guess the light bulb finally went on. Anyhow, Wise did say it will take the Oline until Dec. to Gel. In the passing face we are getting alot better but on the running side of things we still need major improvement. Is it as simple as us just getting a better RB? And also muck I read one of your ealrier post stating how Travis Minor seems to be slow to the open holes, I think that has to be where the High Ankle Sprain is effecting him.
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I did notice that the OL wasn't getting beat much in Buffalo. I think it's a combination of a new scheme, unity, and getting Wheatly out of the lineup. Plus the best OL's in the league are the one's that have been together for a while(KC,Baltimore,etc) that have only made a change or two to their lines(like how next year Carey will probabbly be starting.) I, like most, have been very critical of our OL this year, and I always forget that we have 5 new offensive linemen on our team, 2 of which are rookies.

I think we might start leaning toward Benson/Cadillac/Brown, younger DT's, and maybe a QB if alll this OL needs is time to gell, and a new block scheme.(llok at Carolina, there OL sucked fir mist of the year like ours, and they are finally doing well)

I will also say that The poor play of the RB has been because of the lack of a great back. While Morris was solid for us, he is a little too slow to be our everydown back, and wikk probably move back to fullback next year. Minor can't run up the middle, and tha's his problem. I expect us to go with a rookie and/or Gordon next year.
 
i think that is why don shula is one of the best coaches, because he did just that, adapted the game to the players he had on the roster.

in the 70's it was run, run, run, pass once in a while, with csonka, kiick, and morris, but when he got marino in the 80's it was pass, pass, pass, run once in a while to keep everyone honest.

the best coaches do this, the worst don't, and usually fail miserably.
 
Jaj said:
Muck I gotta contradict you on this one. I'll give you a famous example too.

Tom Landry.
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Got anything applicable to the present day NFL?
 
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