Perfect Offseason (the best one)

[Ark139954]

Here's what the perfect offseason would look like for the Phins.
FA- Sign Asante Samuel at all costs. Hes one of the best corners in the league.

Draft-Trade down and pick up that DT 19 year old Okoyle or whatever and and offensive guard of tackle. In the second round pick up any of the leftover QB's, ala Stanton or Smith (he wins games, who cares if hes short)

Sign a great offensive lineman. We have the cap room now we need to use it.

 

[Desides]

FA- Sign Asante Samuel at all costs. Hes one of the best corners in the league.

Not quite. He played very well this year, but mainly because he wants to get paid. New England won't cough up what he wants, so he's going to be a major commodity in the free agent market. He's not going to become a Dolphin, because we don't have the cap room to pay him.

Draft-Trade down and pick up that DT 19 year old Okoyle or whatever and and offensive guard of tackle. In the second round pick up any of the leftover QB's, ala Stanton or Smith (he wins games, who cares if hes short)

Amobi Okoye would not fit into our defensive scheme. If he gets drafted by Miami, it would signal two things: one, that Mueller and Cameron are idiots; and two, that the Texans are even dumber, because he'd be a great fit for their defense.

If we draft a QB, it'll be on the second day, and only because we release Harrington. There's no way we're going into the season with 4 QBs on our roster. (Yes, Culpepper is going to stay. Accept it.)

Sign a great offensive lineman. We have the cap room now we need to use it.

Who? There aren't many linemen in free agency, let alone those that we need, and let alone those that we could sign. Assuming that we're giving up on Anthony Alabi, and that we're not going to replace Hadnot at C, we should hope that Joe Thomas or Levi Brown are available when we draft in the first round.

 

[PhinGeneral]

Amobi Okoye would not fit into our defensive scheme. If he gets drafted by Miami, it would signal two things: one, that Mueller and Cameron are idiots; and two, that the Texans are even dumber, because he'd be a great fit for their defense.

How is Okoye much different from Vonnie Holliday (who may leave via free agency)?

 

[Desides]

How is Okoye much different from Vonnie Holliday (who may leave via free agency)?

He's not as powerful, for starters. In the NFL, Okoye would be best suited as a tackle in a 4-3 system. He just wouldn't fit into the defense we run, and he certainly couldn't replace Holliday. If we wanted him, he'd have to gain 30-40 pounds, and we just have no idea how the additional weight would affect his speed. In our defensive scheme, he'd be both a gamble and an experiment--and do we really want to give ~$20 million dollars to a player who likely wouldn't fit the system we run?

Pass on Okoye.

 

[CitizenSnips]

Here's what the perfect offseason would look like for the Phins.
FA- Sign Asante Samuel at all costs. Hes one of the best corners in the league.

Draft-Trade down and pick up that DT 19 year old Okoyle or whatever and and offensive guard of tackle. In the second round pick up any of the leftover QB's, ala Stanton or Smith (he wins games, who cares if hes short)

Sign a great offensive lineman. We have the cap room now we need to use it.

NOT IF WE SIGN SAMUALS WE WONT. its one or the other at this point. I dont want Samuals, he's gonna cost somewhere between 10-15 million.

As for Okoye, he's very talented, but hes sooo young and not as big as previously indicated. He wont be able to make much of a difference next season no matter where he goes. He might need to another year or two to become ready.

 

[VT Dolphan]

Here's what the perfect offseason would look like for the Phins.
FA- Sign Asante Samuel at all costs. Hes one of the best corners in the league.

Draft-Trade down and pick up that DT 19 year old Okoyle or whatever and and offensive guard of tackle. In the second round pick up any of the leftover QB's, ala Stanton or Smith (he wins games, who cares if hes short)

Sign a great offensive lineman. We have the cap room now we need to use it.

How badly can you want "Okoyle" when you don't even know his name?

 

[PhinGeneral]

He's not as powerful, for starters. In the NFL, Okoye would be best suited as a tackle in a 4-3 system. He just wouldn't fit into the defense we run, and he certainly couldn't replace Holliday. If we wanted him, he'd have to gain 30-40 pounds, and we just have no idea how the additional weight would affect his speed. In our defensive scheme, he'd be both a gamble and an experiment--and do we really want to give ~$20 million dollars to a player who likely wouldn't fit the system we run?

Pass on Okoye.

I think you're overstating the matter. He's a 19 year old kid that's still growing and maturing. He played quite a bit heavier at Louisville and has been a factor at that weight also, so I would think they have an idea about his speed. He might not be a substantial contributor right off the bat, but his upside is enormous. And as long as we continue to run the same hybrid system that we've been running I see little reason why he couldn't replace the 290 lb Holliday.

 

[Aqua4Ever04]

The best thing that can happen to the Dolphins this offseason is for Daunte's knee to heal up. QB is the most important position for us to adress right now and without Daunte, were in trouble.

Next on the list would be signing Samuel or Clements to give us that big time corner back to help take a little bit of pressure off the young safties and the front 7.

After that, we should improve the left side of the line. James went backwards this year after a very solid 2005 season. I'd like to see him go along with grabbing a new LT.

Lastly, get younger up front. This Okoyle guy could be a very good pick because he's young, quick and BIG.

That is my order of adressing for the Dolphins in the 2007 offseason.

 

[Desides]

I think you're overstating the matter. He's a 19 year old kid that's still growing and maturing. He played quite a bit heavier at Louisville and has been a factor at that weight also, so I would think they have an idea about his speed. He might not be a substantial contributor right off the bat, but his upside is enormous. And as long as we continue to run the same hybrid system that we've been running I see little reason why he couldn't replace the 290 lb Holliday.

The thing about Holliday is that he's exceptionally strong for his size. That's why he can play in our system; he makes up for that lower weight by being pretty damn powerful. Okoye doesn't have that advantage. There would be a dramatic drop-off in performance if you subbed Okoye for Holliday.

That is, unless Okoye gained weight. In which case, he loses his speed, and you're gambling on him still being effective with another 40 pounds. You don't pay $20 million to a player who is essentially a gigantic question mark given the scheme you run and the players it requires.

Let another team get Okoye. We've got other matters to worry about. Like the offensive line.

The best thing that can happen to the Dolphins this offseason is for Daunte's knee to heal up. QB is the most important position for us to adress right now and without Daunte, were in trouble.

Daunte's knee is actually very much improved, thanks to the arthroscopic knee surgery he underwent during the season. He no longer walks with a limp, he doesn't feel pain when pushing off using his right knee, and he's been spotted around the training facility actually running up stairs. A guy with a bad or somehow painful knee does not run up a staircase.

I really wish the local media would focus more on Culpepper's recovery, but I get the feeling they're in the tank for a new QB...

This Okoyle guy could be a very good pick because he's young, quick and BIG.

Young, yes. Quick, yes. Big? Not enough to be effective in the NFL. Hell, even in college he can be pushed back and dominated, and has been on many occasions. He'd have to gain quite a few pounds, and then you lose the quickness--so why bother?

 

[Ark139954]

How badly can you want "Okoyle" when you don't even know his name?

i wont tj housmansadah but i dont know how to spell his name either, nice try puttin me down

 

[TotoreMexico]

How badly can you want "Okoyle" when you don't even know his name?

 

[PhinGeneral]

The thing about Holliday is that he's exceptionally strong for his size. That's why he can play in our system; he makes up for that lower weight by being pretty damn powerful. Okoye doesn't have that advantage. There would be a dramatic drop-off in performance if you subbed Okoye for Holliday.

That is, unless Okoye gained weight. In which case, he loses his speed, and you're gambling on him still being effective with another 40 pounds. You don't pay $20 million to a player who is essentially a gigantic question mark given the scheme you run and the players it requires.

Let another team get Okoye. We've got other matters to worry about. Like the offensive line.

But then you're making an assumption that the extra weight wouldn't be muscle. Again, we're talking about a 19 year old kid who they believe hasn't yet grown into his body. He still may have the room to become immensely powerful and fast.

I think it will be interesting to see some of the reports that come out of the combine. This is when the medical staffs get to do their stuff and get a proper idea of how much more strength and size a player can put on. And Okoye will definitely be one of those that will garner a lot of attention.

 

[zachblitz54]

Here's what the perfect offseason would look like for the Phins.
FA- Sign Asante Samuel at all costs. Hes one of the best corners in the league.

Draft-Trade down and pick up that DT 19 year old Okoyle or whatever and and offensive guard of tackle. In the second round pick up any of the leftover QB's, ala Stanton or Smith (he wins games, who cares if hes short)

Sign a great offensive lineman. We have the cap room now we need to use it.

Perfect. I would love to see each and everyone of those things happen. Samuels is a stud. Okoye looked great during Senior Bowl week and his best is yet to come. Stanton needs a year or two to develop, but is going to be a very good pro, IMO. A left tackle would be nice in F/A.

 

[Ark139954]

Not quite. He played very well this year, but mainly because he wants to get paid. New England won't cough up what he wants, so he's going to be a major commodity in the free agent market. He's not going to become a Dolphin, because we don't have the cap room to pay him.



Amobi Okoye would not fit into our defensive scheme. If he gets drafted by Miami, it would signal two things: one, that Mueller and Cameron are idiots; and two, that the Texans are even dumber, because he'd be a great fit for their defense.

If we draft a QB, it'll be on the second day, and only because we release Harrington. There's no way we're going into the season with 4 QBs on our roster. (Yes, Culpepper is going to stay. Accept it.)



Who? There aren't many linemen in free agency, let alone those that we need, and let alone those that we could sign. Assuming that we're giving up on Anthony Alabi, and that we're not going to replace Hadnot at C, we should hope that Joe Thomas or Levi Brown are available when we draft in the first round.

didnt know u were an expert gm and talent evaluator especiallly on okoye. no...if we draft a qb it better be a decent qb that could eventually take over for culpepper if he doesnt pan out. I want culpepper just as much as anyone, but if he doesnt get better we need a good option. but i see ur stuck on u wannstedt aproach where we just deal with a mediocre qb and dont even attempt to draft one. whens th last time we drafted a qb. we need a decent qb. as for okoye, he could fit perfectly in our scheme cause we dont always play in a 3-4 and he would almost be the best run stopping de in the 3-4 in the league and with his quicknees could turn into a very good pass rushing 3-4 end. in the 4-3 he could be a very formidable dt possibly even great

 

[Desides]

But then you're making an assumption that the extra weight wouldn't be muscle.

No, I'm not. I'm presuming the weight would be muscle, gained with the help of the Dolphins' weight training staff. But, fat or muscle, additional weight slows someone down. And going from 287 to, oh, 330 is a huge gain that WILL slow Okoye down. Now, fine, he might gain the power necessary to dominate the lineman he's facing, but he'd then slow down to the point where he wouldn't be an effective rusher. What's the point, then, in paying him $20 million?

Of course, because he's popular, no one would label him a bust in that situation... but that's exactly what he'd be.

didnt know u were an expert gm and talent evaluator especiallly on okoye.

As opposed to your ability to evaluate, say, the entire Dolphins roster to identify its needs? And then evaluate the draft and free agency to locate the players you believe we need to add? And then beginning a thread based on that evaluation? And then replying to my opinion with even more evaluation? Come on, man. If you can't accept and respond to criticism without bashing, what's the point in making public your opinion in the first place?

As far as Culpepper goes... the knee is fine. The arthroscopic knee surgery fixed his problem, which was rogue cartilage in the knee that should not have been there. The man is no longer limping, feels no pain when pushing off, and has been seen running up stairs at the Dolphins training facility. That sounds to me like his knee is fine.