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I think it would be good to see how others, like NFL and ESPN ranked the QB's vs PFF but do not have the time to do so. It would make a good thread.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Yeah, OK.
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After the top 3, there are a bunch of QB's grouped together. One more good game or, one less bad one would have changed the ranking. I think that we all may agree that there were not many QB's who had VG years on a consistent basis due to injury and surrounding talent.

The "Young Guns" in Wilson, Luck, Kapernick, RG 3 all regressed, and many vets were not impressive. I gotta give Tannehill some credit for not doing the same with teams having tape and tendencies on him. That in itself is an improvement.
 
The Steelers didn't really start winning games until their running game came to form.
 
1972fins said:
Keep in mind RT had 2 bad games Jets Bills
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Saints game probably wasn't as bad as it looked for him in terms of PFF grades since he had like two 'arm hit as he threw' interceptions and IIRC they don't grade those badly.

In the end, it's just silly.
 
I hate all the comments about how well Tannehill did despite the 58 sacks. Yes we had an absolutely aweful line but more than half of those 58 sacks were Hill's fault!
 
SCOTTY said:
I hate all the comments about how well Tannehill did despite the 58 sacks. Yes we had an absolutely aweful line but more than half of those 58 sacks were Hill's fault!
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This couldn't be more wrong of a statement about most of the sacks were his fault lo l"some" yes "most" no don't forget he was hurried a 100 plus times this year aside from the sacks ...Also most of his sacks were on 2 step drops meaning absolutely no time at all!! Its amazing he even had t year he did with that against him and add in the horrible run game as the icing on the cake.
 
FishTank said:
No matter how you choose to view Tannehill's season, he had a reasonably good year. Go on. Try and take that away from him.
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No matter how you slice and dice Tannehill, he played pretty well. Compare to RG, Wilson, Luck, who did not for the year.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
Love how the haters let threads that they can't blame on "Happy Adjusters" just quietly die..... :chuckle:

Come on Angry Deniers, where are you?
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Where is your request for the equivalent of a doctoral dissertation to support the information? Or do you insist on that degree of rigor only when the results are unfavorable to Tannehill? :unsure:
 
Unfortunately when you look at all of the objective data for the variables that are the most strongly associated with winning, this thing here coming from PFF stands out like a sore thumb as fairly inconsistent with the rest. Therefore when you consider what kind of stock to put in this, I believe it has to suffer on the grounds that its convergent validity is pretty questionable. In other words it doesn't jibe well with the other, important objective data available. One has to wonder, in my opinion, how valid something can be when it doesn't comport with other objective data that measure the same thing (quarterback play).

Then again, based on this:

Southbeach 2 said:
To expand on the QB's. If you go to just passing:

Peyton- #1, with a grade of 44.3
Rivers- with a grade of 29.9
Brees- with a grade of 28.8

Stafford- with a grade of 17.2
Brady- with a grade of 16.6
Tannehill- with a grade of 15.2
McCown- with a grade of 14.3
Romo- with a grade of 13.2
Wilson- with a grade of 13.1
Rodgers- with a grade of 12.9
Big Ben- with a grade of 11.6
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...it looks as though Tannehill may be only in the average range in the league, despite the 7th overall ranking (which can be deceiving), and if so, then in that case these data actually do comport with the other objective data available, which essentially say that Tannehill was no better than average in the league in 2013.
 
What was Tannehills PFF ranking the last two weeks? When the playoffs were on the line. Even a mediocre performance in the Jets game probably gets a win. Instead he stunk up the joint. Guy has proven nothing
 
Gravity said:
Unfortunately when you look at all of the objective data for the variables that are the most strongly associated with winning, this thing here coming from PFF stands out like a sore thumb as fairly inconsistent with the rest. Therefore when you consider what kind of stock to put in this, I believe it has to suffer on the grounds that its convergent validity is pretty questionable. In other words it doesn't jibe well with the other, important objective data available. One has to wonder, in my opinion, how valid something can be when it doesn't comport with other objective data that measure the same thing (quarterback play).

Then again, based on this:



...it looks as though Tannehill may be only in the average range in the league, despite the 7th overall ranking (which can be deceiving), and if so, then in that case these data actually do comport with the other objective data available, which essentially say that Tannehill was no better than average in the league in 2013.
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Ha ha..... PFF is the fountain of all data until it doesn't fit your agenda.....

7th overall deceiving....:lol::lol:

Careful, that much spinning will make you dizzy. :tubes:

Obviously they are measuring QB płay only while the data you continue to use (YPA) is more a measure of the whole offensive efficiency (as I have repeatedly told you). There really is no inconsistency at all.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
Ha ha..... PFF is the fountain of all data until it doesn't fit your agenda.....

7th overall deceiving....:lol::lol:

Careful, that much spinning will make you dizzy. :tubes:

Obviously they are measuring QB płay only while the data you continue to use (YPA) is more a measure of the whole offensive efficiency (as I have repeatedly told you). There really is no inconsistency at all.
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You strike me as plenty smart enough to realize that these data from PFF are based on the subjective perceptions of PFF's staff, rather than incontrovertible objective data such as YPA and the like.

Then again, like I said, Tannehill may be no better than average in the league even in this regard, despite the 7th overall ranking.
 
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