PFF's Top 20 QB's

[HoneyB]

Luck is not last. I added him to the top 20 as he was #21 and we had been comparing him the RT this year. Flacco is the other name QB not in the top 20. There are 30 QB's taking 50% of their team's snaps.

Yeah, I suppose Flacco's not making any top 10 list this year because the team is in disarray. He's getting no love. But he's a great QB and deserves to be in the top 20, and so does Luck.

 

[Atila]

Since Reggie Wayne went down, Luck is 2-2 beating TN twice and losing to 2 winning teams. Even factoring in Wayne, Luck's ypa is a mediocre 6.8 and lower the last 4 games.

Comparing the 2, Luck is 2-2, Tannehill is 3-1 since Reggie Wayne went down.
Luck 153 attempts/ Tannehill 153 attempts
Luck: 89 completions/Tannehill 98 completions
Luck: 921yds = 6.1ypa/ Tannehill 1109yds = 7.3ypa
Luck: 5TDs, 2 Ints/ Tannehill 7TDs 4 Ints
Luck: 81.1QBR/ Tannehill 90.1QBR

Why just compare the last 4 games? Well, it's because all last season I was maintaining that if you add RW's total yards, yds/game and # of receptions to the Tannehill column - or remove them from the Luck column they'd have very close to the same stats with the exception of more Ints for Luck. Despite his 4 years college seasoning and being coached by Pep Hamilton, it seems that Reggie Wayne is the major difference between a relatively raw Tannehill and Luck.

Now I'm not comparing a seasoned 4year college QB who was the most heralded QB recruit since Peyton to a relatively raw Tannehill. Luck, has already demonstrated the clutch gene that Tannehill is now showing promise of having. Luck has an enviable mobility and escapability that I don't know whether Tannehill will ever resemble, although neither has a bunch of great QBs like Peyton and Brady so that's nearly irrelevant IMO. However, to compare the two does Tannehill a gross disservice most of all. :idk:

Hahaha I'm a huge Tannehill supporter but this last 4 games comparison is GARBAGE - Luck lost Reggie Wayne BUT Tannehill has an improved supporting cast from last year - but you don't want to account for that?

I don't even have an opinion about the rest of this thread, it's just amusing that people are so desperate to prove Tannehill is a baller - I believe he will be, but he's not there yet, and I'm okay to wait and see.

 

[Shouright]

Hahaha I'm a huge Tannehill supporter but this last 4 games comparison is GARBAGE - Luck lost Reggie Wayne BUT Tannehill has an improved supporting cast from last year - but you don't want to account for that?

I don't even have an opinion about the rest of this thread, it's just amusing that people are so desperate to prove Tannehill is a baller - I believe he will be, but he's not there yet, and I'm okay to wait and see.

Of course they're desperate. They know the team is hinging on him.

 

[Vaark]

Hahaha I'm a huge Tannehill supporter but this last 4 games comparison is GARBAGE - Luck lost Reggie Wayne BUT Tannehill has an improved supporting cast from last year - but you don't want to account for that?

I don't even have an opinion about the rest of this thread, it's just amusing that people are so desperate to prove Tannehill is a baller - I believe he will be, but he's not there yet, and I'm okay to wait and see.

Tannehill lost Gibson which was huge, Keller who actually made buttfumble look decent at times and to a lesser extent Binns who was connecting with him. He also had to contend with a porous LT and subpar other linemen and an injured center, not to mention a bi-polar running game.. so let's not get carried away here when referencing Tannehill's supposed riches vs the likes of TY Hilton, the trading for a top 5 RB draft pick and Coby Fleener. Again, I picked 4 games to underscore that Reggie Wayne was the statistical difference last season between the 2 QBs and considering that Luck managed to beat the impressive TN Titans twice (too bad they can't play them a few more times eh?) and lose to 2 winning teams to demonstrate statistically that the loss of Reggie was huge for them. Yeah, Luck has lost his best RBs, Reggie and Allen, but then again what he has to work with is arguably better than what Tannehill had to work with as a rookie, so again I rest my "Reggie case" that despite the hype and college seasoning it just may be premature to hold Luck up as the paragon of new QB success

 

[Sarnics13]

Why is no body mentioning that RT is performing stellar in spit of the circus that has been happening in our organization and the multiple OL rearranges?? He doesn't make excuses by using any of that when he has made mistakes....extreme professionalism AND serious "baller" mentality week in and week out. That is something that your stupid stat sheets CANNOT calculate in regard to evaluating a QB's weekly performance.

 

[nyjunc]

Why is no body mentioning that RT is performing stellar in spit of the circus that has been happening in our organization and the multiple OL rearranges?? He doesn't make excuses by using any of that when he has made mistakes....extreme professionalism AND serious "baller" mentality week in and week out. That is something that your stupid stat sheets CANNOT calculate in regard to evaluating a QB's weekly performance.

b/c he hasn't been stellar, he has actually been struggling despite decent #s. if he was playing stellar our game would have been over by half time 2 weeks ago and Pitt wouldn't have had a chance to have a miracle play at the end to win it.