Philbin and Ireland were "not entirely convinced" he would beat out Moore (Flynn)

[ohall]

What offer? I haven't seen anything not on a message board, or some vague twitter rumors that Miami ever made an offer to Smith. But Dan LeBatard says Miami stuck Smith in a hotel room... and kept telling him an offer was forthcoming, and then later called to say they were going in a different direction. Sounds just like Ross's story.


Like I said you keep believing we looked at three qb's for the hell of it. How many other teams chased every avail qb, nobody else. You believe what you want and I will believe what IU want. You find it logical that they looked at all these guys and figured they would get them for 5 mill a year when nobody thought any of these guys would sign for that. Hell we almost gave a 34 year old qb that was out of the NFL that much and you believe that what they offered everybody. You believe the one writer that supports your viewpoint, I doubt many people really think this was the case. Gotta love those phins though giving free agents free trips just to waste thier time, I think Im starting to understand why Peyton never even considered us. If they had so much faith in Moore they would not have chased these guys

You are the one that keeps missing the point. They obviously had set prices in place for each QB (Flynn and Smith) and they weren't willing to go beyond that. I support that no matter what our GM's name is.

 

[ohall]

Cleveland possibly. if Smith had no leverage why would Sf sign him right after they missed on Manning.

ahhhh!

 

[Batroc]

*Sigh* A lot of us were saying from the get-go that a 2game wonder for an offensive juggernaut who was a 7th round draft pick from an awful college QB program for a reason, isn't worth starter's comp unless the guy that knew him best, wanted to hitch his fledgling HC career wagon to him. Obviously that was not the case.

Many of us also conceded that Smith did a pretty good and controlled version of Trent Dilfer this past season under Harbaugh's watchful eye. However, in reality he was a 1 year out of 7 wonder and may be a bit better than Moore, but certainly not 2-4X better which is how we'd have to pay him.

It's Logic 101 people! You're certainly welcome to see ghosts lurking in closets if that's the way you're hard-wired, but common sense asserts this is more fact than fancy!!!

Exactly! Our hatred for Ireland/ Ross shouldn't blind us to the fact that Flynn only has a 2 game resume to build off of. Couple that with the fact that no one has a more intimate knowledge of his pros and cons than Philbin and that's all I need to know about the situation. Smith has ONE good season under his belt out of seven. I truly believe this FO went all in on Manning and decided that if they missed they would go the draft route ( most likely Tannehill) unless they could get Flynn cheap.

 

[fishbanger]

Seattle was convinced Flynn is better then Moore. Good for them. This means we will draft our future QB for the long term.

We play Seattle next year so you will have your answer to this question soon.

 

[Etuoo33]

For all of this Flynn was a 7th round choice, and there was a reason for that. Our new coach worked with him for years and should know him very well. Our Owner say's "if the f***ing coach wanted him, he would be here". At some point you have to take a man at his word. Bitch about Ireland all you want but he has done a pretty good job in the time HE has had control. Look at the mess Poulian left in Indy... Peterson left in KC, there is more ad naseaum. What about the Jests extending Shanshiz then trading for Tebow, Ireland does something like that and firing would have not even been enough.

 

[shula_guy]

I tend to think out of the box a lot, its just my nature so bear with me on this one.

What if:

Bringing him in was a big smoke screen to help convince other teams that Philbin thought highly of him as a QB. Flynn gets a decent contract out of it, which Philbin might be of happy to do for the guy and with a little luck it eliminates one team from possibly leapfrogging us in the draft to target a QB we are interested in.

I'll be honest, I'm not confident that Ireland is clever enough to orchastrate a bluff on the level I just suggested, but hey maybe he will surprise me. I'm just put this out there as an alternative reason for bringing Flynn in and then letting another team outbid us.

 

[dlockz]

I tend to think out of the box a lot, its just my nature so bear with me on this one.

What if:

Bringing him in was a big smoke screen to help convince other teams that Philbin thought highly of him as a QB. Flynn gets a decent contract out of it, which Philbin might be of happy to do for the guy and with a little luck it eliminates one team from possibly leapfrogging us in the draft to target a QB we are interested in.

I'll be honest, I'm not confident that Ireland is clever enough to orchastrate a bluff on the level I just suggested, but hey maybe he will surprise me. I'm just put this out there as an alternative reason for bringing Flynn in and then letting another team outbid us.

Ireland is definately not bright enough for that. Flynn really did not sign a huge contract a little more than we paid for Richard friggin Marshall. Im ok with not signing Flynn but it just seems like we looked bad in the whole process