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Philbin's Best on Hard Knocks- BRILLIANT!!!

KTOWNFINFAN said:
Yes AND no. I love the idea of the way practice is ran, but it is something that is more a product of the new CBA than anything else. While it is true that you get many more plays which is very important now with the cut down practice periods, there are also some negatives. Players can't be corrected until after practice. Before when you had more time between plays, positions coaches would have time to take players in their group aside and explain things play by play. Now young players who are learning whole new concepts have to practice mistakes for a whole day before they get them corrected.
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VG points KT. In this instance, I would think the good of the many exceed that of the few. We have 90 players out there, and IMO having more time for coaches to look at them is more important than taking time for an on the spot correction. There is more to evaluate on tape, which is better for players as well as coaches, even though it takes a day longer.
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KTOWNFINFAN said:
Yes AND no. I love the idea of the way practice is ran, but it is something that is more a product of the new CBA than anything else. While it is true that you get many more plays which is very important now with the cut down practice periods, there are also some negatives. Players can't be corrected until after practice. Before when you had more time between plays, positions coaches would have time to take players in their group aside and explain things play by play. Now young players who are learning whole new concepts have to practice mistakes for a whole day before they get them corrected.

This new system will work great for vets who already know most of what they need to learn, it is also great for conditioning and has it's merits for QBs who need to learn to read defenses as quickly as possible. It will help the offense get used to the speed the coaches want to play at to keep defenses from substituting and taking advantage of mismatches. But players like Les Brown will have a very hard time learning at this pace. Humans need time to process information. Although I do love the idea there are times when they also need to run it at a slower pace IMO. One thing is for sure, you WON'T be seeing other teams copy it THIS year. There is a lot more to it than just speeding up practice. It's not just something you can change in the middle of a TC.

The intangibles are what makes it so useful. Since RT already knew the system it gives him a great chance to see things at a more game speed. It also dictates what the defenses can do which is also great for RT and the rest of the QBs. But if RT had came from another college system it would have made it much harder for him to get up to speed.

Humans learn at different speeds, and for some it will be the greatest things since sliced bread, but for others who learn slower or have more to learn, it may become VERY frustrating IMO.
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Good points but I think there are a lot of things happening behind the sceens that we don't see. Philbin has mentioned at a number of press conferences that he'll have to look at the tape from practice...implying that the coaches all review the tape and look for corrections to make for the players. That could be technique, fundamentals, play execution, etc. You're right in that it doesn't give them a chance to correct on the field as the play happens but it could also mean that the coaches can sit down with players after practice (or before or whenever), watch the film, show them what they're doing and give them instruction. This also gives the coaches a chance to see which players can actually execute the instructions given in the classroom and put them into practice on the field. I've heard Philbin say in one interview how he was frustrated that the coaching staff gave the team some instructions on some new plays or possibly some new concepts and they weren't able to execute it in practice. That was during OTAs.

I think the concepts of what Philbin and company are doing on the practice field with basically two practices running at once is now out there for all to see, but the details are not and hopefully that doesn't get into Hard Knocks so we can at least keep some secrets, lol.
 
That 10 post blows, i cant see videos and **** posted here. I also missed hard Knocks. How well Tanny perfomed in practice?
 
datruth55 said:
Good points but I think there are a lot of things happening behind the sceens that we don't see. Philbin has mentioned at a number of press conferences that he'll have to look at the tape from practice...implying that the coaches all review the tape and look for corrections to make for the players. That could be technique, fundamentals, play execution, etc. You're right in that it doesn't give them a chance to correct on the field as the play happens but it could also mean that the coaches can sit down with players after practice (or before or whenever), watch the film, show them what they're doing and give them instruction. This also gives the coaches a chance to see which players can actually execute the instructions given in the classroom and put them into practice on the field. I've heard Philbin say in one interview how he was frustrated that the coaching staff gave the team some instructions on some new plays or possibly some new concepts and they weren't able to execute it in practice. That was during OTAs.

I think the concepts of what Philbin and company are doing on the practice field with basically two practices running at once is now out there for all to see, but the details are not and hopefully that doesn't get into Hard Knocks so we can at least keep some secrets, lol.
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Good points. This system also allows coaches to look at maybe twice as many plays by a player on tape, to see more of what he can do. I also like the idea of not giving a player time to think about the last play, and moving on. This is something coaches preach in real games.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
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You lost me here. What does Ireland's desktop and what he has on it, have to do with Philbin's great idea?

I'm from South Beach, and have led a "sheltered life." :)
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His great idea has been mentioned in other threads if that discussion is so important. This thread sucked dude.
 
DudeleBroski said:
His great idea has been mentioned in other threads if that discussion is so important. This thread sucked dude.
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If you believe any thread SUCKS, you should ignore them. Why not just start your own thread on what may have been on Ireland's desktop. I'm sure you will get many a good reply but, I will not be among them. LOL
 
steeb said:
Sorry,

at 13:56 he has Outlook open...

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And who cares? How does this affect our Miami Dolphins Football Team? Does it make anything we saw on Hard Knocks better or worse? Does it make coaches, players or, our FO better or worse? Does it mean anything to anyone, anywhere? NO, it doesn't.

It's just something some people would rather do, in finding any meaningless little thing wrong, than talking about what matters. I really don't get it.
 
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datruth55 said:
True but I'm unhappy about the fact that now the other 31 teams know how we do it so the advantage next year will be gone. I don't see many teams trying to start this now so we still have the advantage this season.
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ive got news for you, we and outsiders already knew about this. It was reported in blogs and such.

Plus, dont ya think all these people who come in like Gannon ect. talk to others outside Miami? Of course they do, they talk on the radio all day. They didnt need hard knocks to find this out.
 
I recall reading in one on the site of one of the local papers that it was something Sherman did at A&M..
 
My favorite part was when Philbin leaves the QB meeting room saying "I have to leave the room on a high note, as George Costanza". LOL I love this guy and his ways. I hope he can turn this team around, because i really believe in him.
 
finfan54 said:
ive got news for you, we and outsiders already knew about this. It was reported in blogs and such.

Plus, dont ya think all these people who come in like Gannon ect. talk to others outside Miami? Of course they do, they talk on the radio all day. They didnt need hard knocks to find this out.
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I've got new for you...talking about it is not the same as seeing it. I heard about it on news stations and read about it in papers just like everyone else but until I actually saw it I wasn't sure how it was being done.
 
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