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Phins DID attempt to sign a CB!!!

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Hi all, i dont have a link for this article but i was only able to copy and paste it from Miamiherald. its basically talking bout our offseason approach compaired to that of the Pats and other NFL teams. but in the article it does state that we were talking to some CBs but no deals were done. so take it for what its worth, for those of you who think we didnt try to sign a CB or we are waiting for the draft hope this helps calm the nerves!!!!


Philosophy difference with Miami, N.E. [Update]
[Update
: The Dolphins announced they had no unrestricted free agents visit the team Wednesday.]
The accepted myth around some NFL circles is that Bill Parcells long-ago planted a philosophy in former assistant Bill Belichick that the New England coach has harvested religiously in bringing great success to the Patriots.
Well, that is not exactly true and watching the Dolphins and Patriots play defense highlights that difference as one 3-4 (New England's) is a hybrid of the other, more traditional (Miami's) 3-4. More evidence of the difference can be found in the approach to the offseason -- this one specifically.
The Patriots had a great need in their secondary and pass-rush last season as they were failed by both on third down. New England was the worst NFL defense in the third-and-10-or-more situations last season, which only means they lost on the game's most important plays, the get-off-the-field plays, more than any other team. Terrible.
With the 23rd pick in the first round and three picks in the second round, one would assume the Patriots would address this problem by picking up some pass-rush help and a cornerback or two. And they still might do that.
But in searching for cornerbacks the Patriots won't necessarily be banking on them being starters right away. The rookies might become starters, but if they aren't ready, Leigh Bodden and Shawn Springs are already on the roster to serve as a transition to the younger players.
The Dolphins are also going to address the cornerback spot in the draft. That is clear because they need bodies, they need depth, and either Nate Jones or Jason Allen as your starting cornerback opposite Will Allen is like hanging a neon sign in the secondary flashing, "BURN ME, BURN ME."
The Dolphins have also tried to sign a veteran cornerback to fill their need. They tried to re-sign Andre' Goodman. They talked to Bodden's agent. They talked with Bryant McFadden's agent. They hosted a visit by Arizona's Eric Green, who remains unsigned and is still a possibility.
The difference is even if Miami signs Green, he hadly brings to the job the credentials Springs or Bodden take to New England. Green might be starting-caliber. And he might not. That has been his career history. Sometimes good. Sometimes not so good.
So where is the big disconnect between Miami's offseason philosophy and New England's? Mike Lombardi of the
National Football Post sizes up New England's philosophy very well:
"The Patriots have a complete team ready to compete in the NFL before the draft. I always felt that you had to attempt to cover your team needs before the draft so that you could enter the draft with the intention of taking the best player. Having the ability to be flexible in the draft allows you to just pick players and not have to worry about waiting for a certain player. The best drafts normally come from having the best offseasons. You enter the draft room with a sense of peace and know that if the chips don’t fall your way, your team can still go out and compete."
Lombardi, a former NFL personnel man and general manager, says not all teams do this and, frankly, I can see the Dolphins as a team that doesn't, or hasn't so far. Last year, everyone knew the Dolphins had enormous holes at offensive tackle and defensive end.
The Dolphins had to fill those holes in the draft. It worked out well with Jake Long, Phillip Merling and Kendall Langford, but it was also an unusual year in that Miami had the first pick of the draft, and multiple high picks in the second round.
This year Miami is picking 25th in the first round. And although it has multiple picks in the second round, the picks are later this year -- 32nd and 57th overall last year compared to 44th and 56th overall this year.
Despite being sealed up like a (Big) Tuna can as an organization, everyone pretty much knows the Dolphins must draft a cornerback, must draft receiver help, and probably will add pass-rush help. We know this.
So this raises two questions:
Will the Dolphins use the latter part of free agency when bargains can be found, to augment positions of need with veterans so they are not forced draft for that need?
Or do the Dolphins decide they have no problem drafting for need and refuse to sign veterans that are good, but not that good. If that is the approach they will save cap space and not add bargain vets, but they also won't enjoy, as Lombardi said, the peace to select the best player at any position they want during the draft.
I find it fascinating. Let's see how it plays out.
[By the way, let's bring the level of comments up a couple of notches today. Spare us the, "I believe in Tuna under all circumstances," comments because everyone trusts in what the guy is doing, and that comment requires no thought, OK? The point is what do you think of the approach? Do you like it compared to New England's? Give me the holes in each approach. Tell me if you find it interesting Belichick and Parcells seem so different in their approach? And which approach would you prefer and why?]
 
It's amazing, then, we weren't able to get at least Bodden to sign with us considering the deal the Patriots got on him.
 
It's amazing, then, we weren't able to get at least Bodden to sign with us considering the deal the Patriots got on him.

Here I post this on an earlier thread regarding Bodden's contract but many didn't see it because it was in "General NFL"

Here some more info. There was more behind it.
via PFT:
http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

In the days before cornerback Leigh Bodden signed with the Patriots, plenty of readers asked us whether he was still planning to play pro football.
As it turns out, Bodden had an opportunity on the first day of free agency. But he passed. (Maybe he wanted Ted Danson money.)
Per multiple league sources, the Patriots made a four-year, $16 million offer on February 27. He had been cut by the Lions on February 9.
In the end, Bodden signed a one-year, $2.25 million contract, including a commitment that the Patriots won’t apply the franchise tag to him in 2010.
Though it’s unclear whether the four-year, $16 million deal was still an option when Bodden signed, it appears that he opted for a short-term contract so that he could hit the market again in the uncapped year.

Not quite the deal we thought, espeically considering the large offer that was on the table. That is a huge gamble on his part, espeically if he gets hurt. Not sure if Bodden is confident or arrogant.
 
the difference between the pats and the fins are that the pats are a super bowl calliber team that have some holes but can be covered up by other positions that are very strong, how many time has their offense been able to bail out the defense? many time so the holes that they have on defense get forgotten, on the other hand the fins are a rebuilding team with alot of young talent, the fins offense efficiant as it was last year will not be able to cover up the holes the defense has, thats why i think they can't just waist their money because if they don't pan out they will be regressing in their building for the futur which with another year or 2 they''ll hopefully be in the same situation the pats are in now. as much as i hate to admit that.
 
I am very big on how the patriots do business. They are great at evaluating talent so, they draft well. They also like to get the most out of veterans that have dominated before, and may have lost a step. They believe in having the right amount of mix between young and old. By doing that they are able to teach the younger players. look at ty law and asante samuels. merriwether and harrison. see, they take on a roll that will allow them to search for bargain veterans who will give them 2-3 years and add a youngin in the draft to be mentored.
Miami can do this when they are in the top echolon of the league. They aren't in the shape to do that now because, like you seen in the playoffs, we have too many holes to fill.
 
We tried to re-sign Goodman but we all know Denver way overpaid. Remember FA is still going on and we also have June 1 cuts. We will be fine
 
We tried to re-sign Goodman but we all know Denver way overpaid. Remember FA is still going on and we also have June 1 cuts. We will be fine

June 1st cuts arent what they use to be......

Acutally this news maybe troublesome....If the Fins did indeed try signing a veteran CB, that Means the Trifecta recognizes it is a weak point in our team, in which they have been unable to address. This has to be concerning.
 
I actually think that Salguero's statement is very telling. Seems to me like we talked to some agents, but didnt have serious interest in any of these players. If we did, dont you think they would at least be in on visits? Its not like McFadden and Bodden got monstrous contracts in the end, so I dont think money was the deciding factor.
 
we are cheap haha.. in some ways thats good tho.. but please no to green
 
were not cheap, we just did not find value in the free agent market that was an upgrade to what we have. I still believe Jason Allen has all the talent to become a starting corner in this league, he has played in 3 different defensive schemes going back adn forth from corner to safetey along the way. If he didn't get hurt last year I feel fans would not feel so desperate to get a corner. I think we fielded calls to FA simply to add competition
 
Another garbage article by armando. Articles like this one are the reason why I dont read the miami herald. He is still feeling a little scorned because of the way Parcells raped his beloved deadskins.

That article contained nothing of substance. Why is comparing us to NE? They are a team hanging onto their past sucesses we are an up n coming team rebuilding from the foundation up. They are retooling. we are rebuilding. Big differences in the two, of course we are taking different approaches to how we aquire talent.
 
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