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Phins didn't want to spend: Ireland safe, not Sparano -- Armando MH article

and to be honest. those WERE the correct moves, regardless of the problems this team is having now. it is CERTAINLY a better course of action to develop through the draft than continue to put bandaids on a situation that is critically bleeding. so we go and sign som of these guys and finish 7-9 or 9-7 again. please tell me what that accomplishes?? it does make more sense to do this on the cheap, stockpile draft picks, find a quarterback and real head coach, build through the draft and THEN add some free agent pieces when the team is on the verge of being a legit playoff team.

look at detroit. thats exactly what they did. look what the 11-5 season did for us. NOTHING. it set us back. parcells came in signed a ton of high priced free agents with injury or production problems, brought in a QB that should have been nothing more than a backup on a very very good contending playoff team as insurance. and we paid the price.

that **** MUST END. and it has. parcells first year set this team back, and ireland had a brought in some talent in the draft this year.

we need the coach. we need the QB. we will get them. there is no point in sabotaging future success for a couple meaningless wins. this team isnt ready, and im glad we didnt spend carelessly in the offseason. just hope we get a top 10 pick. hope its better than that!

You think the fact that Miami is 0-3 is proof that we shouldn't have gone after a QB? As far as I can see a QB who can't score points is as big of a reason for us not winning as anything else.
 
We have 8 million to spend, as well as never locking up Soliai for a smaller amount then the 12 plus mill he makes. O boy, we don't need to improve anywhere.....

soliai should have seen the field a year earlier than he did so they knew what they had, and could have locked him up for a very reasonable number. considering we had absolutely ZERO depth at the position and decided to move starks out of his natural position, the is no logic in not locking up soliai prior to last season regardless anyways. were we going to go out and find 2 NTs in one offseason?? no way! with that in mind they should have locked him up cheap - which they certainly could have, EVEN if it meant they might end up overpaying for him slightly. as it turns out, giving him that contract then would have meant having soliai on the cheap considering he is now our franchise player, and if we intend to keep him next year we are going to either franchise him again at $14 or sign him to a contract with more than $14 million in guarantees. regardless how u cut it, or how it went down - the whole soliai situation was not handled properly
 
You think the fact that Miami is 0-3 is proof that we shouldn't have gone after a QB? As far as I can see a QB who can't score points is as big of a reason for us not winning as anything else.

its ABSOLUTELY the reason we shouldnt have gone after a qb. there is only one QB out there this regime should have targeted and thats ryan mallett when he fell. there were zero potential franchise qbs available so it makes no sense to trade for a guy and then pay him like a starter. for an 0-3 team??? what kind of sense does that make??? please tell me???

so we can enter the next draft hamstrung by quarterback salaries and unable to draft a 1st round QB??? please explain the logic in that.

YES not pursuing a QB, while counter-intuitive, given the circumstances WAS the correct move.

the only exception being, making an effort to obtain mallett in the draft
 
The only reason why not bringing in a QB was the right move is because its clearly evident now that the guys in charge, including Ireland, didn't give a **** about whether or not Sparano had a chance this year.
 
its ABSOLUTELY the reason we shouldnt have gone after a qb. there is only one QB out there this regime should have targeted and thats ryan mallett when he fell. there were zero potential franchise qbs available so it makes no sense to trade for a guy and then pay him like a starter. for an 0-3 team??? what kind of sense does that make??? please tell me???

so we can enter the next draft hamstrung by quarterback salaries and unable to draft a 1st round QB??? please explain the logic in that.

YES not pursuing a QB, while counter-intuitive, given the circumstances WAS the correct move.

the only exception being, making an effort to obtain mallett in the draft

We DID go after a QB.

MATT MOORE!

Fire these liars.
 
We DID go after a QB.

MATT MOORE!

Fire these liars.

If Henne continues mounting 13 and 16 point efforts, it won't be long before we find out how legitimate Matt Moore is, though probably with an interim HC. He does have a 7-6 starting record and if it had been a legitimate competition in preseason, there was certainly nothing to detract from Moore.
 
The only reason why not bringing in a QB was the right move is because its clearly evident now that the guys in charge, including Ireland, didn't give a **** about whether or not Sparano had a chance this year.

we ***** about the win now approach that has set this team back for years - without a proper rebuild, and without drafting a QB, and u think it makes sense to sacrifice our future position of potentially acquiring a franchise QB in the first round this coming year so that we can acquire a journeyman so sparano can win 1 or 2 additional games this year??? does that make any sense at all??

why do u think that sparano was retained??? they extended him so he wasnt lame duck, and put a plan in place for the future. they knew this roster had too many holes still, and they werent going to be able to get their quarterback. it seems we are now perfectly positioned to add that piece heading into next year. sparano was either going to sink or swim. henne was either going to sink or swim. but regardless the cap situation was going to be favorable moving forward and aging veterans were not added to the roster.

this franchise is positioned very well for a new regime next year - to start a complete rebuild, and we have some nice young pieces. need a coach and a QB to develop - which we should be able to draft.

perhaps this owner and GM made some shrewd moves for the future by holding.

think about this. CLEARLY sparano wasnt going to last. why should the owner potentially pay 2 head coaches heading into the uncertainty of a lockout? we werent in position to draft a franchise QB. we didnt overpay for aging veterans we would have been stuck with under a new coach.

things arent as bad as they seem. find the right coach and QB, and this can turn around very fast
 
I don't necessarily disagree with you and it seems exactly why the team would have done that. That doesn't mean it doesn't suck for Sparano and it's somewhat unethical. Have you ever had an employer ignore giving you the tools you needed to succeed because they already knew they were bringing in somebody else? I have, and it's really about the lowest thing you can do to a person who will have to live with than on their resume.
 
I don't necessarily disagree with you and it seems exactly why the team would have done that. That doesn't mean it doesn't suck for Sparano and it's somewhat unethical. Have you ever had an employer ignore giving you the tools you needed to succeed because they already knew they were bringing in somebody else? I have, and it's really about the lowest thing you can do to a person who will have to live with than on their resume.

hey i agree with u there. but they simply couldnt sacrifice the future just so sparano could keep his job. and honestly this should have been a better team than the one that finished 7-9 last year. its not like tony COULDNT have had success with this team. its a better team than the one he had that finished 11-5 minus the quarterback. his backfield is much better, he has a center that can play, its a young team with one more year experience. if henne was going to develop then that development was going to start showing up this year. i mean look at green bay last year. they lost so many guys they were picking up our scraps like eric walden to START for them. yet they STILL had success.

sparano can win with the talent on this roster today. actually let me take that back - a good coach can win with this talent (im not saying we are immensely talented - we have holes - but we have talent as well)

in addition, sparano was given an extension. im sure they had a conversation. perhaps sparano was even ready to hit the road. but how does that serve him? hes not getting another head coaching job - he might as well make the most of it and see if he could turn it around and extend his stay. cream rises to the top. winners FIND A WAY. just look at the comments out of the lockerroom - this guy cant coach, or rather he cant lead a team.

the situation served everybody involved, all we can hope for now is that we end up with a top 5 pick. if we get a QB well be in good shape with a new staff
 
Stephen Ross sucks more than Tony and Jeff and that is saying something.

Maybe he should go see a play in NYC
 
Completely disagree. I think as a fan you want to help your team succeed, and on the business side, sell your product. Robert Kraft of the Pats was a 30 year season ticket holder and become the owner. Hows that for an example?

Only a "homer" owner sticks with a qb because they have the same alma mater and then goes as far to proclaim Henne as the next Marino for the dolphins. Ross screams I rule my team as a "fan" and is nowhere in the same realm as Kraft. Again it's another investment to Ross and that's so blatantly obvious Stevie Wonder already seem it and jumped ship...
 
I wouldn't let those **** spend my money either! Buying Cowboys trash has to get old for Ross!
 
They will all be fired, no big name coach is coming here to work for Jeff Ireland.
 
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