Phins Improvement From Within?

[So Be]

It's that time of the year when all Phans are looking to improve our team through FA and the draft. For something different, I thought it would be a good idea to see what posters felt on improving from within or, guys getting better from last year. There are many who could.

Tannehill tops the list. He HAS TO take another step for us to be a legit contender.

Miller and DT have to improve with some changes in our OL.

Wallace has to improve just based on time together with RT.

Clay and Sims have to get better in blocking.

Hard to say on the OL. Brenner should, and don't know about Dallas, etc.

OV should take the next sep in being consistent, and Jordan HAS TO be much better.

Ellerbe and Wheeler HAVE TO improve after very disappinting seasons.

Jones HAS TO get better or will be moving on.

That's a whole lotta guys who could/should be better than last year. Which one's will?

 

[Danny68]

We can start improving by GETTING RID of one or two of them, but i hear what your saying..

 

[So Be]

We can start improving by GETTING RID of one or two of them, but i hear what your saying..

I can't point to getting rid of anyone based on what they have done or, what they can do. Hard to believe sooo many players underperformed, and we were in the position we were in with 2 games to go. I left Wake of the list because of injury but, he was not close to a year ago.

 

[z926538]

It's that time of the year when all Phans are looking to improve our team through FA and the draft. For something different, I thought it would be a good idea to see what posters felt on improving from within or, guys getting better from last year. There are many who could.

It could also be possible that Philbin is the second coming of Bill Walsh and the majority of the players that you mentioned had career years in the 2013 season and will never get any better than they are now. Ireland's talent evaluation skills really were that bad. And I still believe that about half the roster will need to be replaced for us to have the same talent level as Denver, New England, Seattle and San Francisco.

 

[Travis34]

Daniel Thomas has peaked long ago.

 

[Bumpus]

Tanny to Wallace deep ball MUST ****ING IMPROVE!!!

Imagine where we'd be right now if they clicked. *sigh*

 

[39wildman]

he is in wrong offense

 

[39wildman]

tannerhill need get better on deep ball because wallace was open

 

[TimBo95]

We've already seen addition by way of subtraction with the removal of Sherman and Ireland.
"That's one giant leap, for mankind" if you ask me. Beyond that, we do need to see players improve. Tannehill's development is the single most important factor. Looking at the teams left in the playoffs, each has QB play that exceeds what Tannehill has done, save, perhaps, Kaepernick. That could be debated, but Wilson, Brady and Manning, and seeing the teams competing in the last few years of playoffs, suggest until he is premiere, the team will always have an uphill battle for success. That's why I think an OC that was a QB would most be beneficial for Tannehill and for the Dolphins.

 

[dlockz]

I can't point to getting rid of anyone based on what they have done or, what they can do. Hard to believe sooo many players underperformed, and we were in the position we were in with 2 games to go. I left Wake of the list because of injury but, he was not close to a year ago.

Im not sure that many players underperformed. Wallace was exactly the same as he was the year before we signed him. Ellerbee was back to being the linebacker that couldn't beat out McClain, wheeler was back to being the linebacker that Ireland passed over for minimum money the previous year. There may have been reasons Atlanta didn't resign Clabo and that no team offered him a multi year contract.

 

[spiketex]

I can't point to getting rid of anyone based on what they have done or, what they can do. Hard to believe sooo many players underperformed, and we were in the position we were in with 2 games to go. I left Wake of the list because of injury but, he was not close to a year ago.

Priority #1 is improve the O-line. Tannehill and Miller can both still be decent if they gets better protection.

 

[AJ Duhe]

I think much of the problem with the players you have identified is that they are veterans, and we have seen their peaks, or very close to it. All players carry a weakness or two, but some of our current veteran players have a consistent weakness that is too easy to exploit.

M. Wallace - waits on the ball; never attacks the ball in the air; never positions his body properly to screen out DBs
L. Miller - has no idea how to hold leverage on a block; doesn't attack the blitzer and gets overwhelmed.
J. Jerry - gets beat when his technique is sloppy; can't get to the second level in the run game
T. Clabo - gets overwhelmed by slightly above average speed or slightly above average power
B. McKinnie - susceptible to stunts; doesn't quickly identify blitzers
P. Wheeler - consistently takes bad angles in the run game; can't disengage from blockers; gets exploited in coverage
D. Ellerbe - gets eaten up by blockers; often chooses the wrong run fit; loses leverage at point of attack
R. Jones - gets consistently beaten by stutter or double moves because he peaks at the QB too much in man coverage
R. Tannehill - pocket awareness; pocket mobility; deep ball accuracy

I've excluded the rookies and second year players, because it should be understood that they have improvements to make. For all these players, Tannehill, Miller, and Jones have the most correctable problems. I consider the rest of them as lost causes. I would guess that Tannehill will probably be a lot better on his pocket awareness and mobility next year. The deep ball? I'm hoping. It will be interesting to see if Tannehill employs some outside coaching like Tom House or George Whitfield to help him on his deep ball accuracy and overall ball placement.

 

[dlockz]

Priority #1 is improve the O-line. Tannehill and Miller can both still be decent if they gets better protection.

oline should improve because it cannot get much worse than this JV unit they sent out last year.

 

[vt_dolfan]

Brady was horrible with his deep ball at first...then he worked on it. Look back at last season...most of those flaws were corrected. I cant wait for next season...Tannehill is gonna light it up...no doubt what so ever in my mind.

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[So Be]

I think much of the problem with the players you have identified is that they are veterans, and we have seen their peaks, or very close to it. All players carry a weakness or two, but some of our current veteran players have a consistent weakness that is too easy to exploit.

M. Wallace - waits on the ball; never attacks the ball in the air; never positions his body properly to screen out DBs
L. Miller - has no idea how to hold leverage on a block; doesn't attack the blitzer and gets overwhelmed.
J. Jerry - gets beat when his technique is sloppy; can't get to the second level in the run game
T. Clabo - gets overwhelmed by slightly above average speed or slightly above average power
B. McKinnie - susceptible to stunts; doesn't quickly identify blitzers
P. Wheeler - consistently takes bad angles in the run game; can't disengage from blockers; gets exploited in coverage
D. Ellerbe - gets eaten up by blockers; often chooses the wrong run fit; loses leverage at point of attack
R. Jones - gets consistently beaten by stutter or double moves because he peaks at the QB too much in man coverage
R. Tannehill - pocket awareness; pocket mobility; deep ball accuracy

I've excluded the rookies and second year players, because it should be understood that they have improvements to make. For all these players, Tannehill, Miller, and Jones have the most correctable problems. I consider the rest of them as lost causes. I would guess that Tannehill will probably be a lot better on his pocket awareness and mobility next year. The deep ball? I'm hoping. It will be interesting to see if Tannehill employs some outside coaching like Tom House or George Whitfield to help him on his deep ball accuracy and overall ball placement.

Agree that we have mostly seen the peaks on the vet players but, it sure as hell was not last year when we mostly saw the valleys. All I'm saying is that IF Ellerbe, Wheeler, and Joney played to the same level as the previous year, our D would have been MUCH better.

IF Wallace clicks with RT and Clabo played as well in the first half as the second, and I have to include Pouncey who had his worst year in run blocking, our O would have been much better.

I give them another year but, IF these guys play the same as last year, I'm cutting them and the cap will allow it with few problems.