Play by play analysis...Feeley led offense...

[SkapePhin]

i think that people are misunderstanding that play. cc was in front of the defender w/ safety help over top, and if gus had put that ball on the money to cc, 1) the pass would have been picked or knocked down, and 2) cc would have gotten his head taken off. its common to intentionally underthrow fly routes b/c corners are taught to play the man, not the ball, so cc gains the advantage by adjusting to the ball first, which is what happened.

This is what you all were saying about Gus's TD pass to Gilmore, saying he put it in the PERFECT and ONLY place for Gilmore to make a play.. I maintained that it was a bad throw that Gilmore did a 180 flip to catch... Guess what, Turns out it was a bad throw.. As confirmed by Gus Frerotte himself..

I dont think its a given he intentionally underthrew the ball.. It could be he did, but I think you all are giving him a bit too much credit.

That being said, I liked how he played for the most part.

 

[inFINSible]

That was a good throw Frerrotte man deep in the endzone, regardless of the flawed tackle by the defender. He still kept his cool. Even better was Chambers adjustment to a well thrown ball.

To a well underthrown ball.....Feidler could have made that throw all day.

 

[FIN-IN-RI]

This is what you all were saying about Gus's TD pass to Gilmore, saying he put it in the PERFECT and ONLY place for Gilmore to make a play.. I maintained that it was a bad throw that Gilmore did a 180 flip to catch... Guess what, Turns out it was a bad throw.. As confirmed by Gus Frerotte himself..

I dont think its a given he intentionally underthrew the ball.. It could be he did, but I think you all are giving him a bit too much credit.

That being said, I liked how he played for the most part.

The throw to gilmore had me nervous.. Gilmore made a great adjustment.

If Frerrote lead Chambers then it would have gone incomplete. Frerottes throw= Mistake or luck? Who knows.

 

[Dol-Fan Dupree]

This is what you all were saying about Gus's TD pass to Gilmore, saying he put it in the PERFECT and ONLY place for Gilmore to make a play.. I maintained that it was a bad throw that Gilmore did a 180 flip to catch... Guess what, Turns out it was a bad throw.. As confirmed by Gus Frerotte himself..

I dont think its a given he intentionally underthrew the ball.. It could be he did, but I think you all are giving him a bit too much credit.

I think there is a good chance he intentionally underthrew the ball. It was the best way for Chambers to make a play on it.

 

[dolfan4good]

I fully intend to do exactly that( I don't think Gus played bad either and if you put a gun to my head and said we need to win this game, I'd have to start him)....and one for the o-line like dolfan4good asked.... :)

Thanks!

 

[NaboCane]

Great post, inFINS.

:yes:

 

[FIN-IN-RI]

To a well underthrown ball.....Feidler could have made that throw all day.

I'll say it would have sailed out of bounds. Either that or Feidler would have not even looked Chambers way( noting Fiedlers penchant for NOT looking to his WR's)

 

[inFINSible]

I'll say it would have sailed out of bounds,

Or he would have gotten away from the rush and just ran....You may be right though.

 

[FIN-IN-RI]

Or he would have gotten away from the rush and just ran....You may be right though.

I was going to post that! Who knows man..

 

[dolfan4good]

This is what you all were saying about Gus's TD pass to Gilmore, saying he put it in the PERFECT and ONLY place for Gilmore to make a play.. I maintained that it was a bad throw that Gilmore did a 180 flip to catch... Guess what, Turns out it was a bad throw.. As confirmed by Gus Frerotte himself..

I dont think its a given he intentionally underthrew the ball.. It could be he did, but I think you all are giving him a bit too much credit.

That being said, I liked how he played for the most part.

I also don't think it was intetional.... he had just almost been creamed and just tossed it out as far as he could while running forward. CC made a great adjustment. In fact, I believe that on the replay you will see CC begin to pull away from the CB right before Gus shucked it up there.

 

[Phishstix]

This is what you all were saying about Gus's TD pass to Gilmore, saying he put it in the PERFECT and ONLY place for Gilmore to make a play.. I maintained that it was a bad throw that Gilmore did a 180 flip to catch... Guess what, Turns out it was a bad throw.. As confirmed by Gus Frerotte himself..

I dont think its a given he intentionally underthrew the ball.. It could be he did, but I think you all are giving him a bit too much credit.

That being said, I liked how he played for the most part.

oh yea, that was a bad throw, no doubt about it. you won't find a post of mine saying it was a good throw, but the one to cc was.

 

[SCall13]

Some people are saying Feeley sucked. Some are just saying Gus played better - which he DID. You can do all the play by play you want. It doesn't change who played better and looked better. Feeley played ok. Gus played a little better than ok. The competition isn't over after the 1st pre-season game. Let's see what happens.

Score: Guskateers -1

Feelers - 0

 

[islandah]

... I don't think Gus played bad either and if you put a gun to my head and said we need to win this game, I'd have to start him...

Great, another friggin' Gusketeer.

 

[touborg]

Do you mean like when Gus just stood there while alomst being sacked for a safety and the defender simply didn't make the tackle?

If you mean getting us out of the endzone to Chambers instead of standing like a deer in the headlights (or Feeley in the headlights) then yes, that is how I mean.

 

[SkapePhin]

Some people are saying Feeley sucked. Some are just saying Gus played better - which he DID. You can do all the play by play you want. It doesn't change who played better and looked better. Feeley played ok. Gus played a little better than ok. The competition isn't over after the 1st pre-season game. Let's see what happens.

Score: Guskateers -1

Feelers - 0

Question: What occurs if his "slipped" ball that went for a TD "slipped" to the ground.. or a defender. What then? Does he still play markedly better than Feeley? If not for that play, his stats are similar. It was evident the offense got a little boost once Frerotte got in, but I dont know if thats due to Frerotte and his throws or the 2nd unit coming in shortly thereafter..

I did like his presence of mind for that one CC throw, but I cant see definitively that he intentionally underthrew it to him.. Could have, but no way of knowing..

IMO, if two plays go differently, Feeley's and Frerotte's performance could have easily been flipped..

If DT catches that one pass, and Feeley gets a TD or 3points following that, and Gus's slip falls incomplete, Wouldnt you say their performances tip a little?