Play was NOT offsides

[afishfan]

hate to beat a dead horse, but the officials blew ANOTHER call that had a tremendous impact on the outcome of the game. fact is I'm getting pretty tired of this **** cause they arent blowing calls that are helping us win....but the opposite

At this point this team isnt good enough to overcome poor officiating, most teams aren't...and while a blown call alone didnt lose this game, it didnt help either, and thats been the case in 3 of our losses.

I'm surprised I havent seen this already somewhere. If you go back and look an the play in the first possesion of the game for the Ravens that Charlie Anderson sacked Flacco and caused a fumble which Miami recovered deep in Ravens territory, Anderson WAS NOT offsides. The officials blew the call.

Andersons first movement suprisingly wasnt forward but upward, and as he started moving the ball was snapped. no part of his body however was across the plain where the ball was spotted. So tough call, but an incorrect call that changed the complexion of the game. If the correct call is made, the dolphins probably add some points and now the ravens are playing catchup with a defense that has spent a large portion of the first quarter on the field.

Edit: I taped the game and watched this play frame by frame in slow motion. It really wasn't even close. Anderson was not moving forward when the ball was snapped.

 

[RUDEbyallMEANS]

I noticed that too when the game was played.

 

[dolfan94]

From the last row of the upper deck, I saw somebody obviously moving, and from that high, it seemed offisde, but you cant really see ****. So since it looked that way live, I didnt really complain.

I thought it was Porter though, I had no idea we had an Anderson in this team.
Can anyone post a link to the play?

 

[GoonBoss]

Boo-hoo. Officials are going to blow some calls. It's life. If you think this is bad, some of you pups whould've been watching the NFL when I was, back in the day. Officials blew calls all the time. Of course that was before the advent of the IntRaWeBz, where we can whine about it until eternity.

Officials are going to blow calls. That's how the game works. Do you REALLY want them flaggin EVERY play that they have doubts about? Last game fans were whineing about three calls, that I could tell....Two of them at least, were obviously made the right way but, that won't stop the whineing.

If you play clean football, beat them with yours, you don't have to worry about the calls.

 

[afishfan]

Boo-hoo. Officials are going to blow some calls. It's life. If you think this is bad, some of you pups whould've been watching the NFL when I was, back in the day. Officials blew calls all the time. Of course that was before the advent of the IntRaWeBz, where we can whine about it until eternity.

Officials are going to blow calls. That's how the game works. Do you REALLY want them flaggin EVERY play that they have doubts about? Last game fans were whineing about three calls, that I could tell....Two of them at least, were obviously made the right way but, that won't stop the whineing.

If you play clean football, beat them with yours, you don't have to worry about the calls.

blah blah blah....thank you for showing all of us uninformed football fans the ropes there wise sir. Think it was mentioned that the call alone didnt blow the game. We still needed to beat them on the field. doesnt change the fact that there were MAJOR gaffs in all three of our loses on the officials part that did not go OUR way.

Now if you care to point out the calls this year which have actually won some games for us I'm ALL EARS.....or how about some calls that actually kept us in some games... hasnt happened. There was one call against san diego that was BORDERLINE but still the CORRECT call in our favor which sustained a drive. The three loses the blown calls have had a huge impact against us on calls MADE INCORRECTLY.

I dont mind that much cause this team has holes. but this team could very easily be 5-1 and SHOULD be at least 4-2. Maybe its for the best in the longrun we arent. But if we are building a winning culture...wins here and there validate these things...3-3 would be ok...some of those doubts creep in at 2-4...

we havent had any help is all im saying.

 

[Valandui]

At least we haven't had another "hitting an unprepared wide receiver" call yet.

 

[CitizenSnips]

he was offsides. If not offsides, he was in the neutral zone, which is the same thing.

 

[SRM]

Even if he truly wasn't, that game has been over for a day.. I don't see why it matters at this point, but I can agree, we haven't exactly been on the good side of these "bad calls" lately

 

[SpaceMountain16]

I only saw the play as it happened, but to me it looked like he was off-sides. Either way i'm not sure that call contributed to us losing the game, this team was horrible in many other areas.

 

[afishfan]

he was offsides. If not offsides, he was in the neutral zone, which is the same thing.

i c...so you went and looked at the tape? no you didnt. i thought the point of the post was he wasnt offsides? glad you assumed he was...but go watch watch the tape. he moved before the snap...but it wasnt forward.....he was never in the neutral zone....so no its not the same thing....its a blown call

 

[afishfan]

I only saw the play as it happened, but to me it looked like he was off-sides. Either way i'm not sure that call contributed to us losing the game, this team was horrible in many other areas.

well it certainly did "contribute" cause miami would have had a chance to go up 10-0 with their defense never on the field for the first 10 minutes of the game cause their first drive was 7min. If miami goes up by two scores with a rested defense, and maybe, just maybe ferguson doesnt get hurt (because he wouldnt have been on the field), its a completely different game

no any number of things "could" have happened after that including other different injuries.

however id rather be up 10-0 than 3-3 going into the second quarter...and keep in mind miami moved the ball at will to begin the game.

 

[GoonBoss]

blah blah blah....thank you for showing all of us uninformed football fans the ropes there wise sir. Think it was mentioned that the call alone didnt blow the game. We still needed to beat them on the field. doesnt change the fact that there were MAJOR gaffs in all three of our loses on the officials part that did not go OUR way.

Now if you care to point out the calls this year which have actually won some games for us I'm ALL EARS.....or how about some calls that actually kept us in some games... hasnt happened. There was one call against san diego that was BORDERLINE but still the CORRECT call in our favor which sustained a drive. The three loses the blown calls have had a huge impact against us on calls MADE INCORRECTLY.

I dont mind that much cause this team has holes. but this team could very easily be 5-1 and SHOULD be at least 4-2. Maybe its for the best in the longrun we arent. But if we are building a winning culture...wins here and there validate these things...3-3 would be ok...some of those doubts creep in at 2-4...

we havent had any help is all im saying.

I have no idea what you are talking about.....List the calls that you are talking about and I'll adress them one by one. I'm off tomorrow, so, I've got tons of time.

Don't waste your time if they involve the "INcomplete" pass/fumble in the TX game. It was an incomplete pass. I've got a tape, and I've looked at it enough that I threw it in a cow pasture next door....It was incomplete.

Don't waste your time if it's the First down call that was re spotted. Hockulie (SP) made the right spot.

Past that? I'm willing to take under review these terrible calls.

You young guys......You think you're the first generation ever to suffer bad calls... Ask an old Steelers/Oilers fan about bad calls.

 

[Dolfan1000]

To be honest, he got a good jump, and its nearly impossible to tell whether he truly was offsides. My initial reaction was that it was just a good read on the snap count, but a call like that is literally a split second decision by the umpire. Very difficult to argue one way or another. In fact, thats part of the reason why such a call irritates me, mostly because I fail to see how it was 100% conclusive he was offsides. That was a big play in this game.

Oh, and if thats Demarcus Ware on the rush, there is no flag. Sorry to be a conspiracy theorist, but I have seen numerous of the league's premier pass rushers get off to similar good starts, appear to be offsides, but they get the benefit of the doubt. It sucked, but this defense had numerous opportunities after that point to make a play. They didnt.

PS, off topic I know, but am I the only one that questions lining Charlie Anderson up with his hand down? Call me crazy, but he has been a LB for his entire career, and looks to me like he is a tad undersized for that role. Why not just stand him up at the end of the line as an OLB and bring the same rush? I dont quite get why we go to that four-down line in obvious passing situations. It seems less effective than our blitz packages. In fact, I notice some 3-4 teams like the Pats and Steelers sometimes have only two down linemen in these situations, and the others kind of walk around near the line trying to confuse the opposition's offensive line. Not a technique or strategy guru by any stretch, but it just seems that, logically, rushing from a standup position would be easier than rushing as a down defensive end.

 

[SpaceMountain16]

well it certainly did "contribute" cause miami would have had a chance to go up 10-0 with their defense never on the field for the first 10 minutes of the game cause their first drive was 7min. If miami goes up by two scores with a rested defense, and maybe, just maybe ferguson doesnt get hurt (because he wouldnt have been on the field), its a completely different game

no any number of things "could" have happened after that including other different injuries.

however id rather be up 10-0 than 3-3 going into the second quarter...and keep in mind miami moved the ball at will to begin the game.

Eh....an offsides call that early in the game really shouldn't be the breaking point of an entire defense.

 

[afishfan]

I have no idea what you are talking about.....List the calls that you are talking about and I'll adress them one by one. I'm off tomorrow, so, I've got tons of time.

Don't waste your time if they involve the "INcomplete" pass/fumble in the TX game. It was an incomplete pass. I've got a tape, and I've looked at it enough that I threw it in a cow pasture next door....It was incomplete.

Don't waste your time if it's the First down call that was re spotted. Hockulie (SP) made the right spot.

Past that? I'm willing to take under review these terrible calls.

You young guys......You think you're the first generation ever to suffer bad calls... Ask an old Steelers/Oilers fan about bad calls.

i didnt think the porter incomplete pass was a fumble....but you picked the perfect play...it was illegal touching which wasnt called and would have ended the drive.....you want the rest in the game??? i dont feel like laying it all out for you...there were several against the jets as well...including a poor pass interference call, and a missed delay of game that resulted in a jets touchdown...think that didnt matter???? go smoke something else.....thats two games we played poorly in...but DID play well enough to win without officiating. granted we needed to play better, but we havent had any help either.