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First off Ill start with
Larry Izzo BP likes Special Teams and hes a beast shoulda kept him
Sam Madison -How did we let him go he was a shutdown corner
Patrick Surtain- See Above. Two great corners and we let them go
Olino Mare- I liked him and he was good
Jamar Fletcher -Turned out to be pretty good
Adewale Ogunleye- One of my biggest beefs with the fins management
Travis MInor- Great 3rd down back
Rob Konrad - The best fullback we had for a long time
Orande Gadsen- We should have talked him out of retirement
Terry Cousin - Better than what weve had lately
Chris Chambers- Best WR weve had in 10 years
Todd Wade Good starting Tackle that we dont have now still playing
Sage Rosenfels- He would be a good starter now did anyone see him in Texas
Randy McMichael-He was always a playmaker here what were we thinking
Seth McKinney-Now everyone wants him back
Desmond Clark-Anyone remember we had him before the Bears
Terrell Buckley- Pretty good here still had a year or two left
Donald Lee - Another great move
Sammy Knight-Better than what we got now
Marlon Greenwood -Hey he only had 118 tackles last year and 221 the prev 2
Damion McINtosh -started 15 games for KC last year Thanks
Kevin Carter
I believe all of them still play and contribute to thier team anyone has anoy other player in mind let me know. But my biggest question in the last 5 years is how do you sign Dante Culpepper when Drew Brees in available. We should ahve gotten Brees and the Qb situation would have been takin care of so we could use the draft for real needs. Maybe Ocho Cinco, or TO would have came if if we had a chance to win more than 5 games a year. We have made alot of mistakes in the past 10 years. So lets turn this thing around right now. Starting with Free Agency and the Draft. I am not a believer in Parcells yet either. He has done nothing but give us the best ST ever. Great too bad that doesnt win games. Smiley was a good pick up but we should have got faneca. We have money and there are still alot of players left we could sign . I will believe it wen I see it. But BP hasnt done anything but confuse me at this point. He will probably blow the draft and next year too and then leave us in more turmiol than we are in now. I hope not but he has done nothing to prove differently. Is he getting the rest of the Money we dont spend this year. Is that why hes in the bargain basement signing all of our players. Make some moves and show us that we might win a few games give us a little hope Billy. Maybe not be so quiet about our trade of ***ent Rumors so we can enjoy it. thanks and sorry its so long. I just had a thought about the players we lost that would have helped.
 
I think you are going to get toasted on this one. You might want to do a little more research before a post like this. For example,


Orande Gadsen- We should have talked him out of retirement

Oronde hurt his ankle, was released by the Dolphins after coming to an injury settlement with them, then came back the following year for 5 or six games and caught like 4 balls over that time span. I don't think talking him out of retirement was the problem. I think it had more to do with him never recovering from the ankle injury. He didn't have much speed to loose.

Good luck with this thread.
 
umm yea we shoudlve kept them then we wouldnt be able to sign anyone else
 
I can't believe some of the names on this list. What games were you watching. You are way over-rating more than a few of these guys. Jamar Fletcher??? That guy sucks! Sage will never be a starter. Morlon Greenwood? UNREAL! The guy is crazy. He was hospitolized for being a nut. He was Baker Acted by the police when he nut up in some midwest town. Oh yeah we really need that. You really need to work on that list.
 
I can't believe some of the names on this list. What games were you watching. You are way over-rating more than a few of these guys. Jamar Fletcher??? That guy sucks! Sage will never be a starter. Morlon Greenwood? UNREAL! The guy is crazy. He was hospitolized for being a nut. He was Baker Acted by the police when he nut up in some midwest town. Oh yeah we really need that. You really need to work on that list.

What exactly are you talking about in regards to Morlon Greenwood? I think you are confusing Dimitrius Underwood with him. Morlon wasn't a bad player for us, actually. He never made big plays, but he was more than serviceable. A lot like what Channing Crowder has been so far, actually. The Texans offered him a big money deal that would have been moronic for the Dolphins to try and match. Same thing goes with Todd Wade.

I do agree with you about the essence of this thread being pretty horrible, though. It is a really bad list of players. Each and every guy on that list had good reasons to not be Dolphins anymore. Whether it was lousy play, not playing up to a level commensurate to their paycheck anymore, getting offered ridiculous money by another team, etc.
 
First off Ill start with
Larry Izzo BP likes Special Teams and hes a beast shoulda kept him
Sam Madison -How did we let him go he was a shutdown corner
Patrick Surtain- See Above. Two great corners and we let them go
Olino Mare- I liked him and he was good
Jamar Fletcher -Turned out to be pretty good
Adewale Ogunleye- One of my biggest beefs with the fins management
Travis MInor- Great 3rd down back
Rob Konrad - The best fullback we had for a long time
Orande Gadsen- We should have talked him out of retirement
Terry Cousin - Better than what weve had lately
Chris Chambers- Best WR weve had in 10 years
Todd Wade Good starting Tackle that we dont have now still playing
Sage Rosenfels- He would be a good starter now did anyone see him in Texas
Randy McMichael-He was always a playmaker here what were we thinking
Seth McKinney-Now everyone wants him back
Desmond Clark-Anyone remember we had him before the Bears
Terrell Buckley- Pretty good here still had a year or two left
Donald Lee - Another great move
Sammy Knight-Better than what we got now
Marlon Greenwood -Hey he only had 118 tackles last year and 221 the prev 2
Damion McINtosh -started 15 games for KC last year Thanks
Kevin Carter
I believe all of them still play and contribute to thier team anyone has anoy other player in mind let me know. But my biggest question in the last 5 years is how do you sign Dante Culpepper when Drew Brees in available. We should ahve gotten Brees and the Qb situation would have been takin care of so we could use the draft for real needs. Maybe Ocho Cinco, or TO would have came if if we had a chance to win more than 5 games a year. We have made alot of mistakes in the past 10 years. So lets turn this thing around right now. Starting with Free Agency and the Draft. I am not a believer in Parcells yet either. He has done nothing but give us the best ST ever. Great too bad that doesnt win games. Smiley was a good pick up but we should have got faneca. We have money and there are still alot of players left we could sign . I will believe it wen I see it. But BP hasnt done anything but confuse me at this point. He will probably blow the draft and next year too and then leave us in more turmiol than we are in now. I hope not but he has done nothing to prove differently. Is he getting the rest of the Money we dont spend this year. Is that why hes in the bargain basement signing all of our players. Make some moves and show us that we might win a few games give us a little hope Billy. Maybe not be so quiet about our trade of ***ent Rumors so we can enjoy it. thanks and sorry its so long. I just had a thought about the players we lost that would have helped.

Every team in the league has the same list. Really there's only 3 maybe 4 guys I would have kept, Ogunleye,L.Izzo and K.Carter, maybe D.Lee otherwise good riddens. Surtain and Madison were awesome in their prime but we did a good job of saying good bye when their play started to decline.
Saying we should have signed D.Brees is 20/20 hindsight, if you want to look back and say we should have done this or that your wasting your time. You could go through every draft and say that aswell, it doesn't change anything. BP has us heading in the right direction, were not over spending were being smart and the draft will really help to improve our future.
 
First off Ill start with
Larry Izzo BP likes Special Teams and hes a beast shoulda kept him
Sam Madison -How did we let him go he was a shutdown corner
Patrick Surtain- See Above. Two great corners and we let them go
Olino Mare- I liked him and he was good
Jamar Fletcher -Turned out to be pretty good
Adewale Ogunleye- One of my biggest beefs with the fins management
Travis MInor- Great 3rd down back
Rob Konrad - The best fullback we had for a long time
Orande Gadsen- We should have talked him out of retirement
Terry Cousin - Better than what weve had lately
Chris Chambers- Best WR weve had in 10 years
Todd Wade Good starting Tackle that we dont have now still playing
Sage Rosenfels- He would be a good starter now did anyone see him in Texas
Randy McMichael-He was always a playmaker here what were we thinking
Seth McKinney-Now everyone wants him back
Desmond Clark-Anyone remember we had him before the Bears
Terrell Buckley- Pretty good here still had a year or two left
Donald Lee - Another great move
Sammy Knight-Better than what we got now
Marlon Greenwood -Hey he only had 118 tackles last year and 221 the prev 2
Damion McINtosh -started 15 games for KC last year Thanks
Kevin Carter
I believe all of them still play and contribute to thier team anyone has anoy other player in mind let me know. But my biggest question in the last 5 years is how do you sign Dante Culpepper when Drew Brees in available. We should ahve gotten Brees and the Qb situation would have been takin care of so we could use the draft for real needs. Maybe Ocho Cinco, or TO would have came if if we had a chance to win more than 5 games a year. We have made alot of mistakes in the past 10 years. So lets turn this thing around right now. Starting with Free Agency and the Draft. I am not a believer in Parcells yet either. He has done nothing but give us the best ST ever. Great too bad that doesnt win games. Smiley was a good pick up but we should have got faneca. We have money and there are still alot of players left we could sign . I will believe it wen I see it. But BP hasnt done anything but confuse me at this point. He will probably blow the draft and next year too and then leave us in more turmiol than we are in now. I hope not but he has done nothing to prove differently. Is he getting the rest of the Money we dont spend this year. Is that why hes in the bargain basement signing all of our players. Make some moves and show us that we might win a few games give us a little hope Billy. Maybe not be so quiet about our trade of ***ent Rumors so we can enjoy it. thanks and sorry its so long. I just had a thought about the players we lost that would have helped.

I'll go along with Surtain, Ogunleye and Morlon Greenwood; especially Ogunleye. That was an extremely stupid trade.
 
surtain, ogunleye, and carter are the only ones from that list that we messed up by letting go.
 
First off Ill start with.


Larry Izzo BP likes Special Teams and hes a beast shoulda kept him
I agree

Sam Madison -How did we let him go he was a shutdown corner
Let go for salary cap reasons, not talent

Patrick Surtain- See Above. Two great corners and we let them go
Let go for salary caor reasons, not talent

Olino Mare- I liked him and he was good
This is a joke, he WAS NOT GOOD the last 3 years he was a dolphin. Mare SUCKED and turned into one of the most unreliable kickers in the league as proven when he was released by N.O.

Jamar Fletcher -Turned out to be pretty good
No thanks, do you remember how "good" he was when he played with us. And it only took him what, 4 years and 3 teams to get to decent.

Adewale Ogunleye- One of my biggest beefs with the fins management
I agree. We wouldnt be having the problems with the DL if we still had him on our roster. Thanks Dave.

Travis MInor- Great 3rd down back
He was expendable.. Lorenzo IMO will be a better. more productive back.

Rob Konrad - The best fullback we had for a long time
He had an injured back and couldnt hang anymore.

Orande Gadsen- We should have talked him out of retirement
Remember, he retired because of injury.

Terry Cousin - Better than what weve had lately


Chris Chambers- Best WR weve had in 10 years
We got great value in the trade. IMO BP would have traded him in the offseason anyway and would have only gotten a 5th AT BEST.

Todd Wade Good starting Tackle that we dont have now still playing
LOL.. No thanks

Sage Rosenfels- He would be a good starter now did anyone see him in Texas
Yes, We should have kept him as our back-up.

Randy McMichael-He was always a playmaker here what were we thinking
This is also a joke. His play decreased dramatically and dropped so many balls I cant count that high. not to mention how many passes were tipped by him and then intercepted, plus, he could not block to save his ***. A true disappointment for what he could have been and a good move releasing him. Not to mention he was due a 3 million roster bonus that he didnt deserve.

Seth McKinney-Now everyone wants him back
1st I have heard of this. Noone wants him back. He sucks

Desmond Clark-Anyone remember we had him before the Bears
We had him for 1 year, he was injured for 5 games and had only 2 catches the whole year. He did not deserve to be retained.

Terrell Buckley- Pretty good here still had a year or two left
Remember, we brought him back. Not to mention we did not need him with Surtain and Madison.

Donald Lee - Another great move
Maybe, but he was a dropping machine while he was with us. Maybe it has something to do with having a HOF QB throwing him the ball???!!!

Sammy Knight-Better than what we got now
Maybe, but he is getting old and slow. He gets burned now.

Marlon Greenwood -Hey he only had 118 tackles last year and 221 the prev 2
I liked him.

Damion McINtosh -started 15 games for KC last year Thanks
LOL.... NO THANK YOU. Dont you remember the revolving door he was??

Kevin Carter
He wouldnt take a pay cut and was released because of salary reasons
 
First off Ill start with
Larry Izzo BP likes Special Teams and hes a beast shoulda kept him
Sam Madison -How did we let him go he was a shutdown corner
Patrick Surtain- See Above. Two great corners and we let them go
Olino Mare- I liked him and he was good
Jamar Fletcher -Turned out to be pretty good
Adewale Ogunleye- One of my biggest beefs with the fins management
Travis MInor- Great 3rd down back
Rob Konrad - The best fullback we had for a long time
Orande Gadsen- We should have talked him out of retirement
Terry Cousin - Better than what weve had lately
Chris Chambers- Best WR weve had in 10 years
Todd Wade Good starting Tackle that we dont have now still playing
Sage Rosenfels- He would be a good starter now did anyone see him in Texas
Randy McMichael-He was always a playmaker here what were we thinking
Seth McKinney-Now everyone wants him back
Desmond Clark-Anyone remember we had him before the Bears
Terrell Buckley- Pretty good here still had a year or two left
Donald Lee - Another great move
Sammy Knight-Better than what we got now
Marlon Greenwood -Hey he only had 118 tackles last year and 221 the prev 2
Damion McINtosh -started 15 games for KC last year Thanks
Kevin Carter
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Izzo I liked, but does not do much anymore
Madison was slowing own, I had no problem with the move
Surtain, I also had no problem with the move
Mare- Needed to be kicked out the door
Flecther was horrible
Ogunleye is hindsite I'll give you
Minor I had no problem with, Booker will be better, Minor was a good ST player
Konrad retired, we did not dump him
Gadsen retired, and had the bad foot
Cousins was awful
Chambers, I have no problem with the move, too many big drops.
Wade, we don't miss him
Rosenfels I'll give you, I always like him.
McMike, was a dissapointment here
Mckinney?? Who wants him back????
Clark did nothing while here
Buckley was washed up
Lee could not catch a cold while here
Knight??? He was okay, but I don't miss him
Greenwood? ahhh, he was okay, but Spragen was just as good
Mcintosh was good awful, I think he just got called for another false start
Kevin carter we miss
 
First off Ill start with
Larry Izzo BP likes Special Teams and hes a beast shoulda kept him
Sam Madison -How did we let him go he was a shutdown corner
Patrick Surtain- See Above. Two great corners and we let them go
Olino Mare- I liked him and he was good
Jamar Fletcher -Turned out to be pretty good
Adewale Ogunleye- One of my biggest beefs with the fins management
Travis MInor- Great 3rd down back
Rob Konrad - The best fullback we had for a long time
Orande Gadsen- We should have talked him out of retirement
Terry Cousin - Better than what weve had lately
Chris Chambers- Best WR weve had in 10 years
Todd Wade Good starting Tackle that we dont have now still playing
Sage Rosenfels- He would be a good starter now did anyone see him in Texas
Randy McMichael-He was always a playmaker here what were we thinking
Seth McKinney-Now everyone wants him back
Desmond Clark-Anyone remember we had him before the Bears
Terrell Buckley- Pretty good here still had a year or two left
Donald Lee - Another great move
Sammy Knight-Better than what we got now
Marlon Greenwood -Hey he only had 118 tackles last year and 221 the prev 2
Damion McINtosh -started 15 games for KC last year Thanks
Kevin Carter


On this list...let's see:

Patrick Surtain
Sam Madison
Rob Konrad
Chris Chambers

those are the only players I would have kept. Everyone else was released for the right reasons.
 
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