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I was thinking of the LaVar thing how we had so many post about him and I was hoping we wouldn't start ahundred post about Law cause I can sense it coming so please lets not start ahundred post or more about Law or any other FA.
 
Perfect23 said:
I was thinking of the LaVar thing how we had so many post about him and I was hoping we wouldn't start ahundred post about Law cause I can sense it coming so please lets not start ahundred post or more about Law or any other FA.
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I hope you know that by starting this thread, you are a part of the problem...

While I'm on the subject, I don't see Law being a possibility here. He was a great CB 3 years ago. Now he's just an overpriced big name. He got 10 ints last year because QBs always picked on him for big completions and tons of PIs. Here's a good read about Law.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/200...analysis/2962/
 
NickJr. said:
I hope you know that by starting this thread, you are a part of the problem...

While I'm on the subject, I don't see Law being a possibility here. He was a great CB 3 years ago. Now he's just an overpriced big name. He got 10 ints last year because QBs always picked on him for big completions and tons of PIs. Here's a good read about Law.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/200...analysis/2962/
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He was pretty good last year.
 
Perfect23 said:
I was thinking of the LaVar thing how we had so many post about him and I was hoping we wouldn't start ahundred post about Law cause I can sense it coming so please lets not start ahundred post or more about Law or any other FA.
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I think most everyone agrees that there were too many posts about Lavar. But the difference is that we actually showed legitimate interest in him, brought him in for a visit, and offered him a contract. We have shown little, if any, interest in Law, so why would anyone start a post about him?.............until now anyway.
 
Just in case something happens you could never be to sure.
 
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You know my wife call us football nerds.....Can that be possible? As soon as she said that I was immediatly thought of John Clayton....Is he a reflection of us fans aka football nerds?
 
XXXSURTAINXXX said:
It wouldnt come up bro.
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Here you go, I don't know what the problem is. It worked on an older post.

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Nine-Tenths of the Lawhttp://www.footballoutsiders.com/2005/09/30/ramblings/stat-analysis/2962/
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9/30/2005
by Bill Moore
(Ed. note: Before we get started, I have to thank Bill  not just for doing work to help me organize the game charting project in the preseason, but for essentially taking over the project when I had to deal with my father’s passing three weeks ago.)
“Ty Law is the kind of shut-down corner that quarterbacks are afraid to test†- Brent Jones, CBS Announcer, during the Jets–Jaguars game 9/25/05
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In his 10 years with the New England Patriots, Ty Law was one of the most feared cornerbacks in the NFL. But three things occurred in 2004 that either directly or indirectly slowed him down. First came the decision to re-emphasize the five-yard illegal contact rule. The “Ty Law Rule†seemed to be specifically targeted toward his kind of physical play. Second, Law turned 30, a feared age among most NFL players not named Jerry Rice. Finally, and most influentially, Law broke his foot on October 31 in Pittsburgh. Although initially expected to return by the playoffs, it ended up taking 10 months before Law was cleared to play again.
This off-season, after being released by the Patriots, Law signed with the New York Jets, whose defense in 2004 was, at least according to Football Outsiders, not that good. According to DVOA (explained here), the rush defense was ranked a solid 5th, but the pass defense was ranked 24th. Last year’s addition of rookie Erik Coleman was a positive for the secondary, as his coverage of running backs and tight ends was respectable. But results against wide receivers were just terrible. When DVOA was split by receiver type, New York’s defense ranked 28th against both number one and number two receivers.
The expectations placed on Law were high for someone who hadn’t played since Last October. Yet his reputation must have preceded him. In his 2005 season preview, Cris Carter named Ty Law and Ed Reed the “best in the business.†He noted, “Law gives the Jets the flexibility at any point in the game to take any wide receiver out of the opposing team’s game plan. With Law in the game, the Jets can double the other side and try different things with blitz packages.â€Â
By opening day, Law was declared to be about 90%, but 9/10ths of the Law was billed to be better than your average cornerback. I was curious if that was true.
As Ron Jaworski would say, let’s go to the tape. Thanks to a new project at Football Outsiders, a number of volunteers have begun charting every NFL game to capture more information than we can get from traditional stats. One of many new features we track is the defender of the target of each pass. As a result, we’ll be able to track whom quarterbacks are picking on, and whom they are avoiding. I combined that information with actual video of the Jets games to watch Ty Law in action.
Week 1: Jets at Kansas City

The Chiefs don’t have the most dangerous wide receiving corps, since much of their high octane offense goes through tight end Tony Gonzalez. Law started out playing pretty tight coverage on the right side, and quarterback Trent Green avoided him but buried left cornerback David Barrett. Green didn’t miss a connection until 12 minutes to go in the second quarter, and that first incompletion was a drop by Larry Johnson. Barrett alone was specifically thrown at eight times in the first three quarters with six completions; the only two incompletions were thrown too far ahead for the receiver to catch. Green hardly ever looked Law’s way. It took a full quarter before he threw that way at all, and Law’s first real action was a let down. Unable to contain Eddie Kennison, Law grabbed him, resulting in a 20-yard pass interference call.
With five minutes to go in the second quarter, Law, while covering another receiver, baited Green into throwing a bad pass and picked it off in the end zone. Green was quoted after the game, “Ty Law is a vet; he baited me into it and I had Eddie [Kennison] on a flat route and [Law] just fell off. He baited me into making that throw. They caught us off-guard on that play. I should have just thrown it away.†Ah, a wily veteran up to his old tricks.
Law wasn’t thrown at again until late in the third quarter when he was playing loose coverage on Kennison, who caught a three-yard slant and ran for a total of a 12-yard gain. Law left the game midway through the fourth quarter when the Jets were down 27-0. No need to get hurt in your first game in almost a year.
So in the end, Law was only thrown at twice, and both resulted in positive gains for the offense, but he did make a nice move in the end zone for an interception.
Week 2: Miami at Jets

On Miami’s first offensive series, I noticed something that I had seen recurring in the Kansas City game. Although Law had made some nice hits in that game, there were a number of instances where Law made little effort to get through a block or attempt more than a lame arm tackle. Miami’s second play was a second-and-1 right end run by Ronnie Brown. Law, who had correctly broken off his coverage, could easily have stopped Brown very close to the first down line; however, he threw a weak arm tackle at him, and Brown gained another six yards.
Quarterback Gus Frerotte showed early that Miami was unafraid of testing Law. Seven of the Dolphins’ first eight plays were directed Law’s way, including four of their first five passes. Three completions totaled 26 yards. The only incompletion was an overthrown pass by Frerotte in the corner of the end zone. With Miami threatening on the Jets’ 15-yard line, Law gave Chris Chambers a big cushion, and Miami took advantage of it with a flat pass to get a first down, with Chambers easily slipping Law’s arm tackle. Yet Ty Law’s tackling ability is inconsistent, not poor. He made a nice hit one play later on tight end Randy McMichael, keeping him out of the end zone and ultimately forcing Miami to settle for a field goal. Ironically, Law didn’t get official credit for the tackle.
Law, who had been playing loose coverage for much of the game, saw the first test of his tight coverage on a 16-yard attempt to Chambers. Close to the sideline, Law did a nice job positioning his body to block the pass.
Miami started the third quarter by attacking Law. With Law in loose coverage on tight end Lorenzo Diamond, Frerotte threw the quick pass, and Law couldn’t adjust. He was burned so badly that he didn’t even assist on the tackle. Two passes later, Frerotte threw to Chambers, but Law was called for defensive holding. Yet another throw went to Chambers, who was open but dropped the ball. The Dolphins targeted Law with the long ball with two minutes to go in the third quarter. He was covering McMichael on the outside, but McMichael turned inside before Law could react for a 20-yard reception. Covering Marty Booker later in the fourth quarter, Law showed he could get the inside position and defensed a 20-yard pass. Frankly, Law should have picked it off, but he dropped it. For the rest of the game, up by 10, Law played 5-10 yards off the line of scrimmage.
In the end, Law was officially thrown at 11 times out of Miami’s 46 attempts, with seven completions. As a measure of quality of the entire Jets secondary, of the five incomplete passes considered to be “defensed,†Law did account for three. Nevertheless, the Dolphins showed they were not afraid to go Law’s way, by air or by ground.
Week 3: Jacksonville at Jets

Much like in the Kansas City game, Law was not tested much, since Jacksonville found success running the ball or going the opposite way. Law covered the right side of the field, usually covering Jimmy Smith or Reggie Williams. Halfway through the first quarter, Jacksonville finally sent a run in Law’s direction. He was easily blocked, and although given credit for the tackle, he never touched Fred Taylor, who compliantly ran out of bounds. Byron Leftwich didn’t test Law until late in the first quarter when Smith boxed him out on an 8-yard inside throw. Law grabbed Smith, who had a clear lane for extra yards after the catch, prior to the reception and was called for pass interference. Other than on a last-second hail mary that he knocked down, Law wasn’t tested again in the quarter. However, with the play going to the other side, Law tried to jam Smith at the line but was flagged for defensive holding and offsides on the same play.
In the second half and overtime, Leftwich threw in Law’s direction four times, connecting on all four. On three of the four, Jacksonville capitalized on loose coverage by Law and threw underneath him. The fourth was completed to Williams despite tight coverage. Similarly to Smith’s move earlier, Williams had the inside position on Law and took down a 23-yard pass.
In total, Law was thrown at six times with five completions and a pass interference call. He did not break up a single pass.
Conclusion

In all three games, receivers were 12-of-16 plus three interference calls against Ty Law for a total of 167 yards. Nine of the 19 plays against him resulted in a first down. Four of those came on third down and one on fourth. Another seven resulted in successful plays as defined by Football Outsiders. Of the four incomplete passes, one was dropped, one was thrown in the end zone over the head of the receiver, and two were legitimately broken up by Law. To his credit, he did make a veteran move in the end zone and baited Trent Green into throwing an interception.
Are quarterbacks afraid to test Ty Law, or are they satisfied feasting off of other members of the Jets’ secondary? The evidence suggests they shouldn’t be afraid, and most did not appear to be so. Teams have had success running the ball against the Jets. In three games, the Jets VOA against the run, once a strong point for the Jets D, has been a poor 6.9%. On the other hand, the pass defense has so far recorded a respectable VOA of –7.7%. That flip-flop would suggest the Jets secondary has rapidly improved from 2004. But that’s not the whole story. Breaking it down by receivers shows the following:
ReceiverPlaysYardsVOAWR #11613814.6%WR#214125-16.6%TE231508.3%RB1644-60.4%Other WRs22124-5.8%​
#1 wide receivers have had good success against the Jets secondary, whereas #2 receivers have done fairly poorly. Running backs fared even worse as the Jets’ linebackers and safeties have done a good job containing backs coming out of the backfield. Having played KC and Miami, it is no surprise that the greatest number of plays have gone through the tight end, and have yielded above average returns. Both teams have offenses featuring a strong tight end (Gonzalez and McMichael).
The variance between #1 and #2 receivers is the most interesting. Law and Barrett essentially split the field rather than match up on particular receivers. Law plays the right side and Barrett the left. If you break out plays thrown at Ty Law, receivers recorded an aggregate 10.6% VOA against him. Although the sample sizes are small, by game statistics alone, Law had an excellent first game driven solely by the limited number of throws and the one interception. Against Miami, Law had a poor game. Against Jacksonville, he had a disastrous game. Honestly, who gives up that many completions to the likes of Reggie Williams (2004 DVOA –36.3%), Ernest Wilford (-5.4%) and TE Brian Jones (-35.5%)? Although I did not calculate the VOA for Barrett, it could not have been good either. The strength of the secondary unit is clearly safeties Coleman and rookie Kerry Rhodes.
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XXXSURTAINXXX said:
"My wife told me that if I get on Finheaven ONE MORE TIME, she was going to leave me. I helped her pack about 2 hours ago. THANKS FINHEAVEN!! "

You know my wife call us football nerds.....Can that be possible? As soon as she said that I was immediatly thought of John Clayton....Is he a reflection of us fans aka football nerds?
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Yikes, being like John Clayton would be pretty close to my worst nightmare. He isn't JUST a football nerd. He is ALL nerd. :lol:
 
Perfect23 said:
I was thinking of the LaVar thing how we had so many post about him and I was hoping we wouldn't start ahundred post about Law cause I can sense it coming so please lets not start ahundred post or more about Law or any other FA.
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Good luck with that!!
 
Firemedic18 said:
You don't want to see a hundred posts about him and then you start the first one???
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Its the first one but im also trying to make it the last one but it probably aint worth it now cause its probably gonna happen anyway.
 
I started 2 on Law just becuase I hate how uptight this main forum is sometimes. If you don't like a thread title, don't open it, sounds simple enough doesn't it?????
 
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