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Please read and learn!!! Saban is financially strapped

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Wanstedts last two years where the most damaging to the team, as he signed veterans players that had "potential" or where just entering the latter half of their careers. He signed these guys to long term contract that end in 08 and 09. While these contracts are not garaunteed and we can cut a player bear in mind that we take a substatial salary cap hit because the contracts are drawn out so they reduce their annual salary but the players are rewarded through other forms of compensation such as amortized bonuses, and other bonuses. When you read this list tell me if you think that these were signings that were in the best long term interest of the team or the player individually?

By the way before you start preaching to me about ZT and JT, those guys are very very good football players but the contracts they receive are that of franchise conerstone players which theya re not. ZT is not Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher, and JT is not Julius Peppers, but they sure got paid like them. Same holds true for CC as well. These guys are signed for many years and if saban were to cut them next year it would be a disaster for the team financially. They are bad contracts that no other team would want as part of a trade either. This is probably why he did not start trading away some of the players last year, when he should have let alone cutting them, these players have all the leverge in negotiations because they know the franchise is royally screwed if they wre to cut them. Here is the list:

Salary Cap Hit= Salary+Amortized Bonuses+Other bonuses

2006 Salary Cap Hit: ( These numbers were very comparable to 05 so I doubt 07 numbers will change)

CC: 6,500,000 ( Is he earning his keep, has he ever earned his keep?) signed to 2009
Booker: 3,100,000 (( Is he earning his keep, has he ever earned his keep?) signed to 2008
McMichael: 5,300,000 (Is he earning his keep, has he ever earned his keep?)signed to 2009
Jeno James, 3,200,000 (Is he earning his keep, has he ever earned his keep?)signed to 2009
Taylor: 11,000,000 ( when you pay this much for a player you are doing it for more than just sacks, and tackles, he has to be a dominant presence and someone that has to be accounted for on every single down, and even when they do he still dominates his opposition, do you think JT is worth 11M? relative to his production 6M yeah but not 11M) signed to 2009
Thomas: 7.2M ( same comments for him as for JT) signed to 2008
Mare: 2.3M signed to 2009

We have 7 players contributing to almost 50% of our salary structure ( $38.6M) this year. The rest of the pot goes to the other 40 players which answers the questin as to why we have no depth.

None of these players produce in the big game they get lost in the game. Have these players ever gone on the road as under dogs and pulled out defining wins consistently ( Jets at the Meadowlands, Pats at home, blow out losses to Rams, 49ers in year past). We have watched these players for a decade and we have more tales of sorrow than jubilation. So my answer to that is no.

In summary cut saban some slack, these are real financial numbers and they speak volumes as to what he can and can not do. They speak more concretely than most of the philosophical arguemnts about poor perfomance etc etc.

Go phins in 07!!
 
Good post, but Saban gave McMichael a contract extension last season.
 
Thanks dude, I hope others read!!

I put some work into it. I just want the rest of our fan base to know what is going on in the organization and hopefully it helps clear out some of the frustration.
 
fitskin said:
Good post, but Saban gave McMichael a contract extension last season.

So what about the other players? The stats are still overwhemingly indicating that wanstedt buried these team, with his parting shots!!
 
all i can say is wow...and thanks for pointing this out..wow...

im speechless...what a great post
 
060693 said:
So what about the other players? The stats are still overwhemingly indicating that wanstedt buried these team, with his parting shots!!

Ya, I was agreeing with your post. Just pointing out a small mistake.
 
THE BEST POST IVE READ THIS YEAR!!! ive been saying it all along.. give saban some time... the team is screwed for the next two years
 
Great post with some great facts.

Having said that, it's no secret that the Wannstedt regime is to blame for the gaping holes on this roster and the lack of almost any young talent.

Saban is having to start all over again. DL, LB, Secondary,
OL, QB, RB,WR were all devoid of any talented young prospects. That paired with some bloated salaries and you have a team that could get much worse before it gets better.

Our drafts have to be extraordinary to restock this roster in a timely manner.
 
great read. i would still cut mare and eat that contract. i would also choose one of those players if not two (Jeno James and Booker if Saban feels comfortable with Hagan and whoever)and do the same with them. In fact if the amortized part isnt too bad, 2mil or so, I would cut Zach also just to save oon his contract
 
060693 said:
Wanstedts last two years where the most damaging to the team, as he signed veterans players that had "potential" or where just entering the latter half of their careers. He signed these guys to long term contract that end in 08 and 09. While these contracts are not garaunteed and we can cut a player bear in mind that we take a substatial salary cap hit because the contracts are drawn out so they reduce their annual salary but the players are rewarded through other forms of compensation such as amortized bonuses, and other bonuses. When you read this list tell me if you think that these were signings that were in the best long term interest of the team or the player individually?

By the way before you start preaching to me about ZT and JT, those guys are very very good football players but the contracts they receive are that of franchise conerstone players which theya re not. ZT is not Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher, and JT is not Julius Peppers, but they sure got paid like them. Same holds true for CC as well. These guys are signed for many years and if saban were to cut them next year it would be a disaster for the team financially. They are bad contracts that no other team would want as part of a trade either. This is probably why he did not start trading away some of the players last year, when he should have let alone cutting them, these players have all the leverge in negotiations because they know the franchise is royally screwed if they wre to cut them. Here is the list:

Salary Cap Hit= Salary+Amortized Bonuses+Other bonuses

2006 Salary Cap Hit: ( These numbers were very comparable to 05 so I doubt 07 numbers will change)

CC: 6,500,000 ( Is he earning his keep, has he ever earned his keep?) signed to 2009
Booker: 3,100,000 (( Is he earning his keep, has he ever earned his keep?) signed to 2008
McMichael: 5,300,000 (Is he earning his keep, has he ever earned his keep?)signed to 2009
Jeno James, 3,200,000 (Is he earning his keep, has he ever earned his keep?)signed to 2009
Taylor: 11,000,000 ( when you pay this much for a player you are doing it for more than just sacks, and tackles, he has to be a dominant presence and someone that has to be accounted for on every single down, and even when they do he still dominates his opposition, do you think JT is worth 11M? relative to his production 6M yeah but not 11M) signed to 2009
Thomas: 7.2M ( same comments for him as for JT) signed to 2008
Mare: 2.3M signed to 2009

We have 7 players contributing to almost 50% of our salary structure ( $38.6M) this year. The rest of the pot goes to the other 40 players which answers the questin as to why we have no depth.

None of these players produce in the big game they get lost in the game. Have these players ever gone on the road as under dogs and pulled out defining wins consistently ( Jets at the Meadowlands, Pats at home, blow out losses to Rams, 49ers in year past). We have watched these players for a decade and we have more tales of sorrow than jubilation. So my answer to that is no.

In summary cut saban some slack, these are real financial numbers and they speak volumes as to what he can and can not do. They speak more concretely than most of the philosophical arguemnts about poor perfomance etc etc.

Go phins in 07!!

Yeah, and Mangini took over the Jets with no cap room and a roster in
shambles... Whats your point?
 
Really nice post....made it with brain...no such thing was used in the singing of players....we must draft a QB in first round a build around!!!
 
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060693 said:
I put some work into it. I just want the rest of our fan base to know what is going on in the organization and hopefully it helps clear out some of the frustration.
So why do you say Go Dolphins in 07!!, shouldn't we say, Go Dolphins in 2011 or something like that? ,we are {edit} till then, aren't we? GO DOLPHINS!! before i died.
 
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