DphinBillkiller
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He will probably get that year but the Dolphins need to play well to keep his seat from getting any hotter.
Poll: Has Jeff already earned another year?
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ohall
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The results of the poll so far kind of shock me. I would have thought at best it would have been reversed.
Lots of people appear to like mediocrity.
Yup that is why I voted ''yes.''
If we have a ''nice draft'' I'm pretty confident we are finishing with a winning record at the worst, and most likely the playoffs.
But true, can't make an actual keeping/releasing decision on Ireland until the season is over.
I'm just following my hunch though lol.
Playmaker76
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I would say it depends on how he does in the upcoming draft. The free agent splurge was mainly done to get public votes for the stadium renovations. Going forward, building through the draft will make or break this team. If he fails to produce in this draft, I would fire him. That would be too many poor drafts for my taste.
Where I would draw the the line, on Ireland here or Ireland gone, is Monday morning after week 16. the checklist is as follows.
A) Are we in the playoffs? yes- stays no- see B
B) If we win next week are we in the playoffs? yes-stays maybe-gone no-gone
This is how close to the playoffs he has to get to keep is job IMO.
A) Are we in the playoffs? yes- stays no- see B
B) If we win next week are we in the playoffs? yes-stays maybe-gone no-gone
This is how close to the playoffs he has to get to keep is job IMO.
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i think it does earn him another year.
Bro I've been away for a few weeks and I felt like I walked into the ****ing Twilight Zone when I stepped in here and saw the poll results.
Sure the OP worded everything kind of funky, but this is more of the same.
1. We Technically won't know how good of an "offseason / draft" we will of had until at minimum after the season.
2. Results are key here . . . if we are competitive, can muster up a winning record and be in the playoff picture all year, then yea no reason to change up a team on the upswing.
3. And this is very important . . . if this team gives us more of the same, this dude needs to LEAVE!! I don't care that the draft picks showed some promise or the Free Agents played well . . .whatever causes this team to not succeed this year falls squarely on Jeff Ireland. He has started this team, rebuilt it, and restarted it . . . . very few, get that chance . . . he deserves blame for everything. If Philbin sucks, I blame Ireland . . . if Mike Wallace gets hurt, I blame Ireland . . . . he's had 6 ****ing offseasons . . . there are ZERO excuses.
In the end, Ryan Tannehill's progression this season will probably be the single biggest thing determining the future of this staff and regime. I'm hopeful but I'd be lying if I said I'm 100% sure he's "the guy" that will reverse the poor QB play of the Dolphins the last 15 years.
Hey I am with you on this one. I bicker with some of the other fans only because they want to pin point Ireland for everything that goes bad and shift the applause to someone else every time something goes good for the Phins. I am tired of hearing their excuses on why they do not like Ireland. At the same time Ireland has had enough leash and time away from Parcells and company to figure it out and get it going. I believe and hope he has. Honestly during preseason I thought Philbin and RT were looking like flops and was looking to lead the charge for Irelands head. Gotta wait for the end product at the end of this year before making that decision
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No way.
Jeff Ireland deserves every ounce of criticism that he gets, instead people want to exclude him from bad decisions and give him credit for what little positive there was.
1. "Jeff Ireland has done a masterful job of getting us in the position that we are in this year in regards to the cap / draft". Sure . . . when you trade first rounders for 2nd rounders and give up 2 2nds for 2 thirds and miss on the amount of free agents that he has missed on and get strapped with cap hits until they are off the books it may look like there is a breath of fresh air there . . . but most GMs don't get the chance he is getting because they have been dismissed by the time the cap turns positive.
2. All speculation, but at times, it has been reported that the owner has stepped in and overruled Ireland for the better of the team (No Orton / Philbin over McCoy)
3. Any GM that leaves their rookie QB out to dry with no weapons like Ireland did last season is just too ****ing comfortable with his job . . . and Ireland has no business being that comfortable. He needs to be put under pressure, instead people see Mike Pouncey and Reshad Jones and think he is some mastermind GM or something . . . please.
4. I wish him the best . . . this isn't a right or wrong thing here . . . we all want the Fins to win and for this season that means hoping Jeff Ireland hits the nail on the head with his decisions. Just because confidence is broken in his abilities doesn't mean people who aren't confident wouldn't love to eat crow in regards to him. It's the people that are comfortable with him that I worry about . . . he hasn't done anything to deserve any comfort or sympathy from anybody.
Rick Cartman
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Knew this was coming. A month ago, everyone on here was screaming "if we dont win he wont return!!!!". He signs a receiver and linebackers and everyone is beginning to get cold feet.
No, he has not earned another year. Going 7-9 or 8-8 is not good enough. I want 11 wins or a playoff berth. His free agency period has been good but not awe inspiring(cutting Dansby and Burnett over Misi? Come on...) like many of the usual suspect claim. He basically filled the holes he created and signed players at positions hes already addressed in years past. This offseason was eerily similar to '10 and somewhat like '11.
Next offseason, like the OP suggested, expect many of the usual suspects to begin a "It wasnt Irelands fault" campaign. We had a hard schedule! Look at the potential of our draft picks! He did everything right at the time! It was Philbins fault! They will try and convince everyone that Ireland is completely powerless and merely watched this team struggle. People need to ignore it and recall threads like this. Like every job in the world, you either start getting positive results or you are fired. That finally needs to apply to Jeff Ireland.
And no, before people start up with it: losing Ireland wont cost us Philbin. General managers are hired after coaches are already established all the time. Ross handpicked Philbin, hes not going to let him go after 2 years. Just like Parcells didnt let his handpicked general manager go after 2 years.
I'm quietly watching this off-season unfold and reserving comment until the season is over whether that be in week 13 because were mathematically eliminated or in February because we made/won the SB. He sure has a hell of a schedule for his do or die season, but i'm sure that's just another excuse that hasn't ripen. For the record i wanted him gone many moons ago. I just find it ironic that anyone that criticizes his moves is met with negativity for having that opinion so early in the off-season. On the contrary, whenever Ireland finally addresses needs everyone is quick to as Bobby Boucher puts it "slap hands" and create kneejerk threads like this. He hasn't earned anything close to job security past this year and nor should he.
We agree on your last paragraph. I find it very interesting that those that oppose Ireland want to dump on him for the decisions made during then Parcells era when he was a rookie GM but want to to give the credit on what is working out now to a rookie 1st year coach and rookie owner. I am glad it make sense to you at least we agree we both want the best for the team.