Poll: Where would you play Jason Allen - S or CB?

[Da 'Fins]

Personally, with Travis Daniels, Will Allen, Andre Goodman, Will Poole and Eddie Jackson at CB, I think Allen should be a safety. Not that we are "set" at CB, but I think there is enough there to be very good, assuming everyone is healthy.

We also have some depth at the Safety position, with Bell, Tillman, Cooper, Hill, etc., but no sure fire starters in that group.

What I like about what Allen brings to the table as a safety is the following:

1) Speed. We haven't had much speed at that position in a while and that has often hurt us on over the top coverage. He also should be able to pick up a 3rd WR when we need him.

2) Hitting ability. Allen is a good hitter and brings good size to an undersized position. at 6'1 209, and I think he'll add 4-6 lbs of muscle to that frame over the course of the next couple of years, he can add some intimidation that hasn't been there since the Louis Oliver days.

3) Smarts. Sure, he'll be a rookie. But, this player is very interested in X's and O's and studying film. That's a good thing for a safety as he is, in many respects, the QB of the defensive backfield. It will be a learning process there for sure in learning to recognize other teams schemes and will need a lot of coaching and help from veterans. But, he will eventually become a leader in the backfield if he stays healthy.

 

[retired opfinistic]

True, we are a little thinner at safety. Allen could provide more impact at that position.

 

[PerfectSZN]

I always think you put your best CB playing CB. Now, do I know he is the better CB...no. If he looks like he is during TC then I would not hesitate to put him at CB. Otherwise, put him at safety.

 

[PogiRo]

I'm lovin the idea of him at safety. I think Travis Daniels, Will Allen, and Will Poole are more than capable of holding down the cornerback positions. Will Allen is a huge upgrade imo, Travis will have a year under his belt, and Will Poole was pretty good before he was injured. I really don't think this is a real weakness when it comes to talent, maybe when it comes to depth, I don't know much bout the new pickups. But imagine the nickel package with Daniels, W. Allen, Poole, and J. Allen and whoever they plug in at the other safety spot... that's lookin pretty damn good.

 

[Gamezover]

I think he should be a safety because we need help at that position...Will Allen and Daniels should be our starters at CB with Poole playing the nickel back...I think Tillman and Bell should compete for the other starting saftey position.

 

[Da 'Fins]

I'm lovin the idea of him at safety. I think Travis Daniels, Will Allen, and Will Poole are more than capable of holding down the cornerback positions. Will Allen is a huge upgrade imo, Travis will have a year under his belt, and Will Poole was pretty good before he was injured. I really don't think this is a real weakness when it comes to talent, maybe when it comes to depth, I don't know much bout the new pickups. But imagine the nickel package with Daniels, W. Allen, Poole, and J. Allen and whoever they plug in at the other safety spot... that's lookin pretty damn good.

Agreed. There is some real potential for us to have a very good defensive backfield out there on the turf.

It would have been nice to have added an impact DE/OLB on the other side of JT during this off-season, but I'm feeling good about our D if people remain healthy.

 

[PogiRo]

Agreed. There is some real potential for us to have a very good defensive backfield out there on the turf.

It would have been nice to have added an impact DE/OLB on the other side of JT during this off-season, but I'm feeling good about our D if people remain healthy.

Yea it would have been nice to add a OLB, but we got some pretty solid players competing for the other spot. I think Spragan will win it. Yea it'd be nice to have a Lavar or an AJ Hawk calliber player there, but Spragan and Hodge aren't pushovers. And as for DE, Roth showed some flashes last year and with experience will get better. Our D will tear up this year. Our secondary will be great if they can stay healthy. The line as well, and of course the linebackers will be good with Zach and Channing. Just look at some of the great D's now, they have great safeties like Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu. And not to mention the Colts' improved D had a lot to do with their improved play at safety. Our D's gonna be sick.

 

[dolphins74]

His size makes him a nice Safety IMO. I think he will be a great hitter and make people think twice about coming across the middle. Not to mention good hands.

 

[Phishstix]

it depends on where he works better at. he and daniels can prob. be interchanged, but since daniels already has experience at cb, imo allen would be better served to get his feet wet at safety.

 

[Namor]

I'm cool with where Nick wants him to play at.

 

[arsenal]

if he can play corner and start at corner for us you put him there, regardless of depth, if hes one of our top 2 corners, you start him there, thats a much more important position (not to take anything away from a safety cause i love the safety position)...

but i personally think he would be more valuable for us this year as a safety than a corner... a rookie corner usually needs time to develop, well any rookie does, but i feel its easier to come in as a safety than it is to come in as a corner as a rookie... and he can also be corner depth if injuries happen...

but in the end, either way works for me...

 

[PhinstiGator]

He should be a rangy/versatile free safety...and be a backup corner in an injury situation.

 

[Mike13]

Play him at which ever position he is better at, but If I had to choose, I would put him at Safety because we are thin at that position.

 

[tay0365]

I'm lovin the idea of him at safety. I think Travis Daniels, Will Allen, and Will Poole are more than capable of holding down the cornerback positions. Will Allen is a huge upgrade imo, Travis will have a year under his belt, and Will Poole was pretty good before he was injured. I really don't think this is a real weakness when it comes to talent, maybe when it comes to depth, I don't know much bout the new pickups. But imagine the nickel package with Daniels, W. Allen, Poole, and J. Allen and whoever they plug in at the other safety spot... that's lookin pretty damn good.

I agree 100% with you, I am also starting to love how our CB Position is starting to look....

Will Poole has the tools to succeed, and 2 years ago proved he could play corner, if he is healthy, he could be a very dangerous corner (He seems to have a knack for where the ball is going, and may put himself in countless positions for the big play).

Will Allen is a very good cover corner, and will make it very tough for receivers to catch pass around him, always in good position, and I did not see him allow many receivers get in front of him, but a warning, there are going to be games, with his stone hands, he will have an easy INT fall out of his hands. Personally, I have no problems with expectingg the big play from the other DBs, as long as he plays lights out coverage.

Travis Daniels played amazing last year, if you put into consideration, he was a rookie, he has limited speed, and how little his side was thrown at. This is a very well taught Corner (Nick Saban 101), he is always in position, makes very few mistakes, and will make it very hard for receivers to get in front of him. If Poole and Alllen work out, this is a spectacular nickleback we have here.

Add to that a player with the intelligence, speed, and hitting ability of Jason Allen at Safety, and opponents will have plenty of problems if you consider that Miami will probably again be among the top teams pressuring the QB, with now hopefully better coverage.

 

[WooDaviDolphins]

the kinf of player he's I see like S, 'cause he's
quick: perfect to deep routes and shorts 'cause he can change direction and pressure to the receiver fast,
tall (6-1): so the QB need to fly more he's throw than he likes,
big hitter: perfect for tacklin' RBs

isn't good interceptin' passes for a CB but always be in right place to defend a pass, he got long arms like T-Daniels