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Where Would You Rank Philbin Among 29 Experienced HCs?


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Rank:Where would you rank Philbin among the 29 experienced HCs?

Not counting novice HCs Bowles, Tomsula and presumably Quinn in Atlanta, and counting Kubiak who looks like a lock in Denver.

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Thanks to @Spesh, here are your choices:
NFC West:
Jeff Fisher
Pete Carroll
Bruce Arians

NFC North:
John Fox
Mike Zimmer
Mike McCarthy
Jim Caldwell

NFC East:
Tom Coughlin
Jason Garrett
Chip Kelly
Jay Gruden

NFC South:
Sean Payton
Ron Rivera
Lovie Smith

AFC East:
Bill Belichick
Rex Ryan
Joe Philbin

AFC South:
Gus Bradley
Chuck Pagano
Ken Whisenhunt
Bill O'Brien

AFC North:
Mike Tomlin
John Harbaugh
Marvin Lewis
Mike Pettine

AFC West:
Mike McCoy
Jack Del Rio
Andy Reid
Gary Kubiak*
 
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There are those who think an 8-8 coach should automatically be middle of the pack.. not taking into consideration that they might have been able to do more with what they had to work with and that some of their field/clock management as well as personnel decisions have proven to be detrimental in hindsight.
 
there's no question he is one of the worst. screw being 8-8 being a result of an average coach. we had a good squad and he played it too safe way too many times. Starting dallas thomas who should be selling cars somewhere, not changing anything when nothing worked, letting the wallace fiasco happen, keeping a ****ty DC on his staff. Tannehills progression and Lazor is the only reason he isn't THE worst.
 
NFC West:
Jeff Fisher
Pete Carroll
Bruce Arians

NFC North:
John Fox
Mike Zimmer
Mike McCarthy
Jim Caldwell

NFC East:
Tom Coughlin
Jason Garrett
Chip Kelly
Jay Gruden

NFC South:
Sean Payton
Ron Rivera
Lovie Smith

AFC East:
Bill Belichick
Rex Ryan
Joe Philbin

AFC South:
Gus Bradley
Chuck Pagano
Ken Whisenhunt
Bill O'Brien

AFC North:
Mike Tomlin
John Harbaugh
Marvin Lewis
Mike Pettine

AFC West:
Mike McCoy
Jack Del Rio
Andy Reid
Gary Kubiak*

For those that are like me and were kind of blanked on the new hires. Feel free to copy and paste that into the OP if youd like Vaark, it could help to visually see the names of the experienced coaches when trying to decide where Philbin lands.
 
Ranking the three years that Joe has been HC, I have Philbin over:

Bill O'brien
Mike Pettine
Mike Zimmer
Jim Caldwell
Jay Gruden
Jeff Fisher
Gus Bradley
Rex Ryan
Ken Wisenhunt
Jack Del Rio

That would place him 19th on my list.
 
Ranking the three years that Joe has been HC, I have Philbin over:

Bill O'brien
Mike Pettine
Mike Zimmer
Jim Caldwell
Jay Gruden
Jeff Fisher
Gus Bradley
Rex Ryan
Ken Wisenhunt
Jack Del Rio

That would place him 19th on my list.
i think Fisher and Rex are better than philbin.
 
He's definitely in the #20 - 25 range I'd say, wouldn't put him in the top half of the league.

Too many blown leads, baffling game management at times, players underperforming, locker-room / player-coach drama, responsible for removing some of the better players from the team...
Many people call him mediocre, but I dunno if this much crap happens to even an average coach. He seems to shoot himself in the foot somehow every year -- in my mind the 7-9 and 8-8 records are very indicative of his performances, just as much if not more-so than the team's actual play. The team may have injuries, especially in debilitating areas like the OLine, but he seems to prove time and again that he's not a consistent winner when there are bumps in the road. Simply put, he's a 0.500 coach, and when playoffs are the goal, that's not worth keeping around.
 
i think Fisher and Rex are better than philbin.

Rex based on 5 of his 6 years, no, and based on sucking for something like 14 out of 20 seasons, Fisher definitely not.. cuz after all this time, that's an established trend.
 
I voted 21-25.

Just looking at a coaches record isn't enough. I think you have to take into account the roster, the hires he makes, how the players react to him, his schemes/playbook, and his past. In that light, for my money there are only 3 coaches i can definitively state are worse than Philbin and 1 im not sure what to make of:

Lovie Smith. Overrated tenure in Chicago, cant hire an offensive coordinator to save his life, and has a unhealthy devotion to an outdated scheme. Building an entire defense...and really an entire team around the Tampa 2 scheme is foolish in today's NFL. His players like him but are they ready to run through walls for him? Given the way that Tampa team fell apart last season, i vote no.

Jay Gruden. While he probably didnt get a fair shake, that team is a complete disaster. A schism has formed that Gruden either couldn't heal or helped create himself.

Jack Del Rio. The guy is a bag of dicks. There were consistent reports out of Jacksonville his last year there that he stopped coming to work on time. He'd arrive whenever he felt like it and bail early. I get it, it sucks knowing your about to get fired but you handle that stuff professionally, not like a petulant teenager. This ignores the fact that he shouldnt have had his job as long as he did. Accomplished nothing, betrayed his players on a semi-regular basis, and really brings nothing to the table. **** that guy, i cant wait for him to fail in Oakland.

Mike Pettine. I dont know if its him, the owner, or the front office, but yet again the Browns are clownshoes. The answer is probably simple: its all 3 parties fault. Regardless, that team shouldnt have collapsed and while im not a fan of Kyle Shanahan(in fact i think hes an entitled prick) he shouldnt have been run out of town.

Guys like Gus Bradley have finished with worse records, but their players play hard for him. Bradley's team consistently came out fired up. Quite the accomplishment given the constant losing. I have to assign blame to his previous general managers instead of the current coaches(fun fact: Gene Smith drafted punter Bryan Anger 5 spots ahead of Russell Wilson).

I cant ignore the reports of players dissatisfaction with Philbin during the season. I dont discount the reports of players being utterly bewildered by Ross' announcement that Philbin is staying. That we consistently collapse against far less talented teams when our season is on the line is indicative that the players just dont care all that much for Philbin. Next season its going to be bad. How bad? I wont know until i see how Philbin deals with guys like Jared Odrick and Mike Wallace. I doubt he can win back the locker room, but if he goes on another purge then our team could actively revolt Keith Traylor style when the games start playing.
 
Ranking the three years that Joe has been HC, I have Philbin over:

Bill O'brien
Mike Pettine
Mike Zimmer
Jim Caldwell
Jay Gruden
Jeff Fisher
Gus Bradley
Rex Ryan
Ken Wisenhunt
Jack Del Rio

That would place him 19th on my list.

I don't see how you could put him above Caldwell, Fisher, Ryan, Wisenhunt and Del Rio considering they all led their teams to the playoffs multiple times and in some cases brought them to the Super Bowl. There is no way an under .500 lifetime coach with no playoff appearances can be ranked above them. That's just homerism


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Ranking the three years that Joe has been HC, I have Philbin over:

Bill O'brien
Mike Pettine
Mike Zimmer
Jim Caldwell
Jay Gruden
Jeff Fisher
Gus Bradley
Rex Ryan
Ken Wisenhunt
Jack Del Rio

That would place him 19th on my list.

Why would you rate him over Bill O Brian who took a 2-14 Texans team to 9-7 in his first year.
This with huge issues at Qb.
 
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