Pollian on Trading Down and Telling The Truth

[So Be]

No player is a dead cert, so IMO if the option to trade back is there you take it. The more you draft, the more players can possibly succeed.

Yes but, the chances diminish in finding a VG player the farther you drop down.

 

[normaniii]

Yes but, the chances diminish in finding a VG player the farther you drop down.

Granted but they also easier to cut and replace due to lower salary etc. then with the successful one you create an environment of resigning your own rather than expensive FA from other franchises.

 

[Rev Kev]

On M&M earlier Pollian was asked if, other than the owner and his wife, he ever told anyone the truth on his draft plans. He said no, and that he told his wife the truth once, she let it get out, and that ended that. LOL

On trading down, you're going to loose the guy you wanted to trade down for 90% of the time. So, if you're trading down 5 spots, there better be 4 guys you will be happy with, if it's 10 spots there better be 8 or you are going to have buyer's remorse on the guy you could have had.

With that in mind, do those wanting to trade down see enough players you would be happy with if it was not a RT?

Yes - I can list like 12 players ->

I can get a RT with the 50th pick -> or in the third/fourth Mehort, Taylor, I also like the Canadian Duvarney -Tardiff but I am biased!!!!

 

[So Be]

Granted but they also easier to cut and replace due to lower salary etc. then with the successful one you create an environment of resigning your own rather than expensive FA from other franchises.

Just me but, I would much rather have the successful one. I'm at my wit's end on cutting and replacing.

 

[Rev Kev]

No player is a dead cert, so IMO if the option to trade back is there you take it. The more you draft, the more players can possibly succeed.

I would take your Mock in a heart beat BTW

---------- Post added at 12:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:07 PM ----------

Trade with Saints to jump ahead of Eagles for Brandin Cook

Saints - 1 (19)

Fins - 1 (27), 2 (58).

Fins Draft Count - 1 (27), 2 (50), 2 (58), 3 (81), 4 (116), 5 (155), 6 (190), 7 (234)

1 (27) - RT Morgan Moses, Virginia - Day 1 Starter at RT, line complete.

2 (50) - G Gabe Jackson, Miss. - Day 1 Starter at LG, line complete.

2 (53) - TE Troy Niklas, Notre Dame - Easily #2 TE and competes for #1 slot with Clay.

3 (81) - OLB Telvin Smith, Florida State - Depth move that can either push Wheeler or take over.

4 (116) - RB Charles Sims, West Virginia - D. Thomas is gone and Sims slots in at #3, wide open RB camp battle with Moreno and Miller

5 (155) - WR Brandon Coleman, Rutgers - Project big body WR, red zone threat Fins lack. 6'6 225lbs....nice.

I wouldn't mind this Mock either -> Niklas is growing on me

 

[So Be]

Yes - I can list like 12 players ->

I can get a RT with the 50th pick -> or in the third/fourth Mehort, Taylor, I also like the Canadian Duvarney -Tardiff but I am biased!!!!

Can't imagine why anyone from Alberta would be biased. lol Can you tell us anything about him? I know nothing at all.

 

[Rev Kev]

Can't imagine why anyone from Alberta would be biased. lol Can you tell us anything about him? I know nothing at all.

Alberta is in Canada but a handful of us would like to annex from Canada like the seperatists in Quebec - LOL

No sorry I can't tell you anything that you won't read on a website, the CFL draft pundits have him ranked first meaning he won't be selected that high in the CFL because he will never play a down in Canada's CFL -> he is from the football factory called Quebec where a lot of our NFL quality players are being raised...

The CFL is loaded with Quebec talent -> Alberta only has a few schools next to Ontario and Quebec. Calagry Dinos has grown more competitive, since Blake Nil arrived to coach from Ontario (I believe it could have been Quebec)

 

[finresurrection]

Trade with Saints to jump ahead of Eagles for Brandin Cook

Saints - 1 (19)

Fins - 1 (27), 2 (58).

Fins Draft Count - 1 (27), 2 (50), 2 (58), 3 (81), 4 (116), 5 (155), 6 (190), 7 (234)

1 (27) - RT Morgan Moses, Virginia - Day 1 Starter at RT, line complete.

2 (50) - G Gabe Jackson, Miss. - Day 1 Starter at LG, line complete.

2 (53) - TE Troy Niklas, Notre Dame - Easily #2 TE and competes for #1 slot with Clay.

3 (81) - OLB Telvin Smith, Florida State - Depth move that can either push Wheeler or take over.

4 (116) - RB Charles Sims, West Virginia - D. Thomas is gone and Sims slots in at #3, wide open RB camp battle with Moreno and Miller

5 (155) - WR Brandon Coleman, Rutgers - Project big body WR, red zone threat Fins lack. 6'6 225lbs....nice.

I could live with this draft if that exact trade were to happen. I could also accept going with Bitonio in rd1, Borland and Niklas in rd2 and Mewhort in 3.

 

[tcdrover]

Other than QB, center and DE they can get better at ALL positions.

I don't have any idea what they will do.

Hickey seems much better at this than Ireland though.

He is much more polite and politically correct with the media, while basically saying absolutely nothing about anything.

 

[So Be]

Other than QB, center and DE they can get better at ALL positions.

I don't have any idea what they will do.

Hickey seems much better at this than Ireland though.

He is much more polite and politically correct with the media, while basically saying absolutely nothing about anything.

Yeah, being polite and pc with the media, while saying nothing surely makes him much better. lol

 

[tcdrover]

Yeah, being polite and pc with the media, while saying nothing surely makes him much better. lol

Yo Shirley, the lights aren't out, you just managed to get your head wedged up your... :d-day: :clapping:

SSDD..

same insects with the same insect noise around here... :rolleyes2:

 

[matt11390]

I do agree with you but, I am really torn here between trading up to fill our, far and away. biggest need in a RT, staying put for a guy like a Mosely,etc and somewhat rolling the dice for a couple of lessor rated players, even in this deep draft. I keep going back and forth on this, and just cannot decide.

First let's see who is available when we pick at 19. You can't make trades like this without knowing the stakes.

 

[1-4-damoney-Tua-4-dashow]

Yup

 

[JTC111]

This is where things get confusing, at least for me. For example, a WR does not really fit an immediate need but, is the BPA. In limited play this year, he could still make some big plays, and in one case, can be a very dangerous return guy.
Tuff to pass for more being better. JMO

It's a crap shoot either way. No pick comes with guarantees. My thinking is the more picks we have, the more opportunities we have to fill holes or improve our depth at key positions.

I don't believe RT should be our top priority. I know it's a need but what we need most is TDScorers...

I've never seen a quarterback throw a touchdown laying on his back. If we fix the O-line, plays have more time to develop and it should make our receivers better.

No player is a dead cert, so IMO if the option to trade back is there you take it. The more you draft, the more players can possibly succeed.

I agree to an extent. I don't want to trade too far back. The smaller the jump backwards, the less drop off in talent for your next pick, or it gives you the chance to trade back again and pick up even more picks. More picks, more picks, more picks. I can't say it enough.

 

[So Be]

Yo Shirley, the lights aren't out, you just managed to get your head wedged up your... :d-day: :clapping:

SSDD..

same insects with the same insect noise around here... :rolleyes2:

Translation please? I think you were making a feeble attempt to say something clever but, I may be wrong, pending translation. lol