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Positive article on Flynn, better than kolb & cassell

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Matt Flynn belongs. In three extended NFL appearances, he’s looked like a competent starting quarterback all three times. Competent starting quarterbacks get paid a lot of money.

So how much money is Flynn worth? I went back to watch Flynn’s two career starts and his relief outing against the Lions from 2010. Here were the takeaways:

Better than Kolb

It’s hard not to compare Flynn to Kevin Kolb, the trendy backup ready to make bank at this point last offseason. I remember going back to watch Kolb’s outings and came away less impressed.

Flynn showed attributes that are difficult to teach, especially for a young quarterback. He didn’t look like a young quarterback. He went through his reads and saw the field well. He made safeties move with his eyes. He picked on the opponent’s weakest defenders. Most importantly, Flynn threw the ball well when the pocket collapsed.

Pocket presence might be the most important quarterback skill that is almost impossible to teach. Kolb doesn’t have it. (Blaine Gabbert really doesn’t have it.) Flynn connected on passes while getting hit, and showed the ability to improvise when necessary. He can throw on the move while running left and right.

Accuracy might be the most important quarterback skill overall. Flynn completed 65% of his throws in his three games. Many throws were short, but he knew when to get rid of the ball quickly. His misses were generally not by much or “good” misses. I chart an informal number called “bad passes” when I watch quarterbacks. Only 17% of his throws qualified as bad passes, which is a low number. (Trust me.)

It gets tricky to give a quarterback credit for intangibles but its hard not to be impressed with Flynn. Facing the streaking Patriots in Week 15 of 2010, with a lot on the line, Flynn acted like he had done it all before.

He got up laughing after taking a big hit in the fourth quarter of a close game. He threw an interception returned for a touchdown in the third quarter, which was largely the receiver’s fault. A lot of young quarterbacks go into a shell at that point.

Instead, Flynn’s very next throw was a pass into a tight window to the same receiver (James Jones) on almost the exact same route. Completion. Onions.

Concerns

The overall numbers from Flynn are outrageous: 908 yards, 8.4 YPA, nine touchdowns, two interceptions, and two fumbles in just two and a half games.

Flynn was promising in his outings, but he wasn’t that good. His arm looks average for an NFL quarterback at best. His deep ball was underthrown a few times. The Patriots did a nice job blitzing him in 2010, and Flynn looked a lot more comfortable out of shotgun in 2011. He occasionally held on to the ball too long.

Add it all up, and I’d easily take Flynn over Kevin Kolb from a year ago. I give Flynn a better chance of developing into a difference-making quarterback than Matt Cassel. Most likely, though, you will need the right situation around Flynn to make it work. But he can be a league average starting quarterback sooner than later, and that has plenty of value.

Possible destinations

1. Miami: Dolphins coach Joe Philbin is the only coach not on the Packers that knows if Flynn has what it takes. You can only draw so much from three games. Philbin has seen Flynn every day in practice for four years. If the Dolphins don’t go after Flynn, I’d usually consider that a red flag.

There is only one problem with that theory: Peyton Manning is available. Dolphins owner Stephen Ross is desperate for a big name to make his team a marquee franchise again and reports indicate Ross will push to sign Manning, whether Philbin is truly on board or not.

Miami is the best home possible for Flynn. He knows the system and they have better depth at wide receiver than they are given credit for. If the Dolphins sign Manning, that leaves the Browns and Seahawks as the expected contenders for Flynn.


http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/40042/310/whos-in-on-matt-flynn
 
I am not going to lie...Flynn makes me nervous. We really do not know if Philbin thinks he is a franchise QB. Plus, late last week his buddy Aaron Rodgers said that Flynn could be a top 15 QB in the league. Not exactly a real ringing endorsement considsering he is suppose to be a good friend of Flynn. Small, small body of work to judge him on. Especially, considering the type of money we may have to throw at him if Cleveland is as interested in him as reports indicate.

In a perfect world I was hoping we would get Manning and still draft Tannehill.
 
I am not going to lie...Flynn makes me nervous. We really do not know if Philbin thinks he is a franchise QB. Plus, late last week his buddy Aaron Rodgers said that Flynn could be a top 15 QB in the league. Not exactly a real ringing endorsement considsering he is suppose to be a good friend of Flynn. Small, small body of work to judge him on. Especially, considering the type of money we may have to throw at him if Cleveland is as interested in him as reports indicate.

In a perfect world I was hoping we would get Manning and still draft Tannehill.
the beauty of the situation is that Philbin doesn't have a limited body of work to judge him on.
 
I am not going to lie...Flynn makes me nervous. We really do not know if Philbin thinks he is a franchise QB. Plus, late last week his buddy Aaron Rodgers said that Flynn could be a top 15 QB in the league. Not exactly a real ringing endorsement considsering he is suppose to be a good friend of Flynn. Small, small body of work to judge him on. Especially, considering the type of money we may have to throw at him if Cleveland is as interested in him as reports indicate.

In a perfect world I was hoping we would get Manning and still draft Tannehill.

this expect for the drafting of tannehill. Would rather draft players to help Flynn like a OT or TE or WR not a guy that is going to take reps from him. If he doesnt work out then do what washington did and do what it takes to move up and get Barkley
 
Im down with flynn. Kolb was very inconsistent with the Eagles before leaving, as was AJ Feeley. Flynn has looked really good, albeit in a very small sample.
 
the beauty of the situation is that Philbin doesn't have a limited body of work to judge him on.

True...There is no other coach in the league besides those in Green Bay that know Flynn any better than Philbin does.

At this point, I have no reason not to trust in Philbin, so if Flynn is the guy...I will be all for it.

Would still prefer Manning and Tannehill though. :)
 
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I just don't see much of an improvement over Moore. If we're going to stick with backups, why not just stick with what we already have rather than investing a ton into a pseudo-competition (it will be Flynn's job, no matter what they may say about an "open competition")?

This, of course, is assuming we don't get Manning. Weeden is the only other available QB that I have any interest in.
 
Think its funny when people bring up Rodgers comment. Being one of the 15 best in the world at something is a pretty high endorsement. Before this season that is what people said about Eli. Now their saying HOF!!!
 
If not for Philbin being our HC, I am watching the Flynn train breeze by our station, especially considering that one of Moore's earliest games was better than Flynn's against NE and while Flynn with his offensive juggernaut is 11 over an obviously limited sampling size, Moore, over fractional seasons for terrible teams those seasons that won at a .37% clip, is still above .500 ..13-12 as a starter which to me is more impressive.

But with Philbin here and hopefully Cam Cameron and his one year flame out somewhere in his consciousness, if he wants to entrust the launching of his career to Flynn, then I'm definitely all aboard that train.

The one problem I'd have is that with the money we have to pay him, he becomes the preemptive starter instead of a fair TC competition with Moore, like Henne did, and you know how that one turned out!
 
Think its funny when people bring up Rodgers comment. Being one of the 15 best in the world at something is a pretty high endorsement. Before this season that is what people said about Eli. Now their saying HOF!!!

The reason I mention it, is that we had the 12th ranked QB last season by QB rating in Matt Moore. If Flynn is not a drastic upgrade over Matt Moore, for the money he is going to command, are we really better off by getting him? Like I said though, if Philbin believes in him, so will I.

I guess we'll find out tomorrow after 4pm.
 
The thing that scares me about Flynn is the sacks taken. 13 sacks in 132 pass attempts is NOT good.
 
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