Gosh it is maddening on here!!! From the Matty "ice" nut huggers, to the "experts" who try and TELL us that Henne doesn't have the "it" factor. I will tell you what Henne doesn't have...he doesn't have an oline....he doesn't have a legit tight end...he doesn't have a wr to stretch the field (although I am hoping Gates comes along)....he doesn't have a "top 3"(not my ranking of him, just what has been bandied about on here) wr who can catch on a regular basis(Marshall).....he doesn't have a defense that can protect a lead....he doesn't have a coach who will actually go for the kill when the other team is down and bleeding. Those aren't excuses, they are FACTS!!! Is Chad perfect? Hell no. But all you on here that want to trade 2yrs. worth of top picks to get a qb are just fooling yourselves. And some here want to say "well we have history on our side to back us up", oh yeah? How bout the Marino years? Isn't that enough flippin history? It proves, without a doubt, no if,ands, or butts that a superstar qb does not = a SB. Do I draft Luck if he is available, hell yes! Do I throw 2yrs worth of draft picks away, hell no!!!! It is a TEAM game and if the whole team doesn't run like a well oiled machine, it will not get you where you want to go. Starting from the TOP (head coach) down to the players and trainers, you need teamwork. You need a stong defense, strong special teams, and a strong offense. You think this defense can get you to a SB? Special teams? Please, there are soooo many more things wrong with this team other than qb it is vomit inducing. Blocked punts, missed FG's, 500 yrds passing against, in game decisions, time management,offensive blocking that is really offensive,...the list can go on and on and when you do get to the bottom third of things to fix(upgrade), then you would find Henne.