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I am all for building a team through the draft; however, once is awhile you have to take calculated risks and trade draft picks for productive in there prime players who have showed they can do it consistently on the next level. This is not a call for mortgaging the future on one player and in the past when we traded picks away we got burned bad i.e. AJ Feely, Trent Green, Ricky Williams & Daunte Culpepper to name a few. But last years trade for Ferguson, Fasano & Adoyele worked out pretty well. A. Boldin is out there for the taking and he will cost us most likely a new deal,first round pick and some. I can honestly say there is no better WR in the draft that will be available when we draft then him. Now I know many will oppose this, but we once had a WR in Wes Welker (production) who we traded away to a division rival for a second round pick Matt Roth (potential). Who made out better with that one? By the way when they traded for him they gave him a new deal as well.
 
not to worry. they know what they are doing. for any or every step backwards we take with the NewRegime, we take two steps forward :D
 
So we're one wide reciever away from a SB..huh... The pats were one slot receiver away and they knew it.. if we were that close, I'd say go for it.. The pats had a good team and wes got them a 16-0 season...that's great value in that situation.. plus Brady can throw the ball all over the field... We don't have that.. we have a QB who can throw effectively up to 30 yards.. I like bolen because he can break tackles, and with our situation you need a guy like that, but I'm sure he'll also be fustrated in our short field O as well...but you make a good point...if you weight the option of will this get us to the sb now, you may go for it.. if you feel you still need a few building blocks, you may want to get the blocks..and then next year go for the talent that completes you. Just a thought.
 
i thought we got matt roth from a second rounder from the pat surtain trade.. i could be very wrong tho..
 
FINishedPerfect said:
I am all for building a team through the draft; however, once is awhile you have to take calculated risks and trade draft picks for productive in there prime players who have showed they can do it consistently on the next level. This is not a call for mortgaging the future on one player and in the past when we traded picks away we got burned bad i.e. AJ Feely, Trent Green, Ricky Williams & Daunte Culpepper to name a few. But last years trade for Ferguson, Fasano & Adoyele worked out pretty well. A. Boldin is out there for the taking and he will cost us most likely a new deal,first round pick and some. I can honestly say there is no better WR in the draft that will be available when we draft then him. Now I know many will oppose this, but we once had a WR in Wes Welker (production) who we traded away to a division rival for a second round pick Matt Roth (potential). Who made out better with that one? By the way when they traded for him they gave him a new deal as well.
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if we were one step away from being a Super Bowl team, i would trade a first and then some for Boldin. but unfortunately, we still need some more pieces.
 
greasyObnoxious said:
if we were one step away from being a Super Bowl team, i would trade a first and then some for Boldin. but unfortunately, we still need some more pieces.
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Don't want to argue apples and oranges with you but aside from a few teams in the NFL everyone is one step away from the Superbowl. No thought that teams like Atlanta,Miami,Titans,Cardinals would make it to the playoffs. And definitely no predict a Steelers & Cardinal Superbowl. The fact is one move can make or break you in this league.
 
Its a very interesting question to pose...

At what point does potential value outweigh production value.

I imagine that there is some type of formula that GMs use to figure these things out. I can't imagine that they just kinda figure it out but rate players in a similar way that Madden Games do. It would certianly make things much easier if they did that type of thing.

Of course you can't just plug in a bunch of numbers in a formula and expect to tell how good someone is... there has to be a percent error in this way of grading players. Like instead of a player being an 80, he is something like 75-85. With potential both ways.

Very intriguing question to contemplate...
 
FINishedPerfect said:
Don't want to argue apples and oranges with you but aside from a few teams in the NFL everyone is one step away from the Superbowl. No thought that teams like Atlanta,Miami,Titans,Cardinals would make it to the playoffs. And definitely no predict a Steelers & Cardinal Superbowl. The fact is one move can make or break you in this league.
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sure. a lot of teams are close. but unless you hit the jackpot with that one move, most teams are still more than one step away IMO.
 
FINishedPerfect said:
Don't want to argue apples and oranges with you but aside from a few teams in the NFL everyone is one step away from the Superbowl. No thought that teams like Atlanta,Miami,Titans,Cardinals would make it to the playoffs. And definitely no predict a Steelers & Cardinal Superbowl. The fact is one move can make or break you in this league.
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We lost to both the SB NFC team and to the team who lost to the AFC team..and the team who lost to the steelers made us look bad not once, but twice last year..a player away, I don't think so. .TO has been the most explosive player in the league the last 3 years in terms of production from the WR spot..how many SB's does Dallas have again?
 
FINishedPerfect said:
Don't want to argue apples and oranges with you but aside from a few teams in the NFL everyone is one step away from the Superbowl. No thought that teams like Atlanta,Miami,Titans,Cardinals would make it to the playoffs. And definitely no predict a Steelers & Cardinal Superbowl. The fact is one move can make or break you in this league.
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We lost to both the SB NFC team and to the team who lost to the AFC team..and the team who lost to the steelers made us look bad not once, but twice last year..a player away, I don't think so. .TO has been the most explosive player in the league the last 3 years in terms of production from the WR spot..how many SB's does Dallas have in that span again?
 
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