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I know this has been debated and discuss on numerous occasions. It seems to me that Prisco had more of a bias against non traditional drop back passers and the creative nature of the Dolphins rather than the implementation of the Wildcat offense. I found this article that may shed so more insite towards the anti "Wildcat" rhetoric from Prisco:

http://www.realfootball365.com/articles/dolphins/14063
 
I don't know that it brought any light to Prisco's Wildcat hate. The point I see is that Wildcat doesn't take passes away from your QB as much as it augments runs in your offense. It is a way to create mismatches to get big yards primarily from the run (and Pat was brought in to add more of a passing element). If your team is primarily a passing team (and NO and NE are) then the Wildcat might take away some passes, but BP and TS are run first smash mouth coaches who want to wear out opposing defenses (while preserving their own) with time consuming low turnover drives. Wildcat works for us. A gimmick is something that works for a flash but then opponents figure it out and shut it down and it is used no more. Look at Florida under Tebow. They win a National Championship, going through a lot of very talented defenses who could never shut down the spread (not exactly Wildcat but close enough) attack.

I don't think there is enough data yet to declare the Wildcat is dead or alive and I think Prisco is premature to declare the Wildcat D.O.A.
 
it will be very interesting to see where Tebow is drafted. it may be every wildcat formation completed pass this year in the nfl makes him a little wealthier.
 
Tebow is a better college player than White was. That said, White's a better passer and a good deal quicker than Tebow. I think these attributes translate better to the pro game than Tebow's size and strength. He won't be able to bull over defenders like he did in college, and if he takes on hits like he did in college, he'll likely be injured.
 
Prisco is grasping for straws here. applying his logic, a simple hand-off would take passes away from a QB.

interestingly enough, Tomlinson had a few TD passes during his career. i wonder why Prisco never bashed the Chargers for taking the ball out of the QBs hands? it's not like they had some scrubs there. if i recall correctly, it's the exact same Drew Brees he's savoring in his anti-Wildcat installment.
 
just an opinion. Not everybody is going to love the wildcat. Im not a fan of it either.
 
I think he has a point but did not make it very well.
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If the WC does not evolve, I'm in the same boat. Toward the end of last season, we got a few big passing plays from the WC, but for the most part, teams were shutting it down. I don't think we'll run the WC as much as most people think, but I see it being much more effective than last season - when we do run it.
 
He's not completely wrong....he just comes across in the wrong way...

The Wildcat makes Pennington a more effective quarterback....until a defense the caliber of Baltimore's shuts it down....forcing Pennington to make the mid-deep out throws....

...throws that Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady can make...

Enter Pat White...
 
j-off-her-doll said:
Tebow is a better college player than White was. That said, White's a better passer and a good deal quicker than Tebow. I think these attributes translate better to the pro game than Tebow's size and strength. He won't be able to bull over defenders like he did in college, and if he takes on hits like he did in college, he'll likely be injured.
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I agree he is not fundamentally a great QB, but He's a playmaker. He has a knack of producing big plays, regardless if he is running or passing the ball, good things happen when he is on the field.

There are just certain players who have that "it" factor of doing good things with the ball on offense or always being around the ball on Defense.

I will use Tom Brady and Brett Favre as examples of this.

Tom Brady fundamentally has been a very good QB who has put up great numbers but I wouldnt call him a "playmaker"

Brett Favre is a "playmaker" he is an above average QB who just has that "it" factor and good things happen around him.

Its hard for me to explain.
Chubbs
 
IF Tom Brady is not a playmaker how many TDs does one need to throw to be considered a playmaker?
 
One of the factors that I believe will drive an "evolution" at the QB position (i.e., more spread and/or wildcat functionality) is the proliferation of hybrid talent at the college level. No matter how you slice the pie, college is the feeder system of the NFL, and sooner or later the NFL needs to adjust to the college game – not the other way around. And if you’re an NFL personnel executive (including coaching staff) you need to find a system where you can actually plug in sufficient talent. Bottom line, if your offense is based on skill set (i.e., the classic drop back passer) that’s more and more rare – you’re going to find it harder and harder to operate that system.

For years we’ve watched the NFL be dominated by the few teams with high level “classic QB’s.” That formula is simply too narrow to stock the league with sufficient QB talent. Thus half the teams in the league (or more) are constantly scrambling trying to find one specific type of player – and if that guy’s not available you’re team is screwed.

With the proliferation of spread offenses etc. in college the simple answer is to ADAPT to the available talent and build a more open-ended system (less dependency on a skill set that’s more and more rare). And once that “formula” proves successful you can bet the league will move in that direction very quickly.

I think that’s why we’re seeing our coaching staff concentrate so much on getting guys with multiple talents so you don’t have to rely on one guy to make your whole team go. If a number of guys can pass and run – you better believe that spreads risk and adds complexity to the defensive aspect as well.
 
finner said:
One of the factors that I believe will drive an “evolution’ at the QB position (i.e., more spread and/or wildcat functionality) is the proliferation of hybrid talent at the college level. No matter how you slice the pie, college is the feeder system of the NFL, and sooner or later the NFL needs to adjust to the college game – not the other way around. And if you’re an NFL personnel executive (including coaching staff) you need to find a system where you can actually plug in sufficient talent. Bottom line, if your offense is based on skill set (i.e., the classic drop back passer) that’s more and more rare – you’re going to find it harder and harder to operate that system.

For years we’ve watched the NFL be dominated by the few teams with high level “classic QB’s.” That formula is simply too narrow to stock the league with sufficient QB talent. Thus half the teams in the league (or more) are constantly scrambling trying to find one specific type of player – and if that guy’s not available you’re team is screwed.

With the proliferation of spread offenses etc. in college the simple answer is to ADAPT to the available talent and build a more open-ended system (less dependency on a skill set that’s more and more rare). And once that “formula” proves successful you can bet the league will move in that direction very quickly.

I think that’s why we’re seeing our coaching staff concentrate so much on getting guys with multiple talents so you don’t have to rely on one guy to make your whole team go. If a number of guys can pass and run – you better believe that spreads risk and adds complexity to the defensive aspect as well.
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I agree....that's what college football had to do to accomodate the talent coming out of high school.....where all this "spread" stuff originated at to begin with...
 
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