Pro footbal Digest thoughts on Miami

[westernnyphinfa]

Our local Sports talk radio station has a gentleman on every wednesday at 11:00 a.m. I recommend listening if you can, whtk.com online.

The columnist lives in chicago, is originally from Rochester, and he is very intelligent, and very good to listen too.

Since these guys have been bashing Miami of late (the local radio), he asked this gentleman about Miami and its current state of affairs (the joke here is we should bring back earl morral), and whether Nick Saban is overhyped. And his relationship with Parcells and Belichek was overhyped.

The columist stated that Bill B and Saban created this player evaluation tool when they both worked in Cleveland, and that it works for Bill in NE and it worked for Nick in college.

He stated that he thought Nick was a very good coach and that the damage that was done by Wanny and Speilman was so deep that Nick is still dealing with the implications of there decisions (bad talent evaluations and poor signings). That the 6 game streak was impressive based on what we had to work with.

He seems very confident in what Nick and his staff will bring, said he has a very tricky situation to deal with in regards to Daunte, and is handling it well.

Basically he thinks pretty much like most of us do, and that while it appears that 2006 might be a lost cause this staff and this head coach and GM will deliver the goods.

Again if you like listening to an unbiased report that covers all NFL squads I highly recommend you listening, wednesday at 11:00 a.m.

 

[IdahoPhin]

Good read.

Mort said about the same thing in a chat a last week. Mort said the phins were over valued after their 6 game week streak. When Saban took over the team the phins had a lot of issues, limited draft picks and salary cap to fix.

 

[westernnyphinfa]

My bad he's on Wednesday at 11:00 a.m. not thursday.

 

[Enforcerfin33]

If Mort says it I believe it!!:dolphins:

 

[PHINBRED]

How Could That Be Wanny And Speilman. Nick Has Changed All The Coaches And 90% Of The Player?

 

[PhinsRock]

Good read, the guy is right on. Thanks.

 

[hooserdaddy]

Good read, the guy is right on. Thanks.

Why you ask. Because Nick is doing everything he can to bring players in with the little salary cap room he does have. That's why the players he's bringing in are average guys at best except a couple of guys. Next year in my opinion this team will be looking more like he wants it to look. Vonnie Holliday, Zach Thomas, and maybe Kevin Carter, David Bowens will be gone. Guys like Fred Evans, Matt Roth, Rod Wright, maybe Manny Wright and Kevin Vickerson will all be a bigger part of this team and will fit a 3-4/4-3 hybrid system better than what we have now.

 

[jdang307]

How Could That Be Wanny And Speilman. Nick Has Changed All The Coaches And 90% Of The Player?

Cap situation and poor draft picks. When you have to get rid of players and replace them with something you lose out. Instead of having a solid squad and "adding" through draft and free agency, you now have to "replace" through draft and free agency. Huge difference.

 

[Mr772]

If Mort says it I believe it!!:dolphins:

In his chat today Mort said that Ronnie Brown is a significant disappointment in Miami.

 

[baamf]

In his chat today Mort said that Ronnie Brown is a significant disappointment in Miami.

Remind me again who drafted him....

 

[Rich22]

Remind me again who drafted him....

You guys are all crazy that are bashing Ronnie Brown. This kid is a load to tackle. He fights for every yard he gets. He has had what - 1 to 2 holes to actually run through this year and look what he did. He has good hands, good speed, can block, and punishes people. You can't fault this kid. You give him a line and some threat of a pass attack and he will be a top back. Teams are putting 8 guys in the box every play. Until that stops we will have no running game even if we had LT. I like the switch to JH and I think we will develop somewhat of a pass attack here. When that happens it will open things up for RB. The only other hope is that we actually get a decent center that can make line calls and actually block guys. Everyone is blaming the guards but I look at the center and see nothing. Every good line has a really good center that runs the show. We have FatNot.

 

[Roman529]

I think the blame Wanny/Speilman argument is getting old. Time to focus on the effort given by the players now on the team, and the coaching staf now in place.

 

[westernnyphinfa]

I think the blame Wanny/Speilman argument is getting old. Time to focus on the effort given by the players now on the team, and the coaching staf now in place.

I partially agree with you, again realize that alot of what we think/feel right now is based on a largely overinflated guestimate as to how good this team was.

We were in Salary cap hell, we had terrible Qb's, we had and awful secondary.

Were changing our system, realize that we are moving from a Man cover 4-3 with small, speedy (JJ Wanny) style football, to more athletic, big, zone blitz 3-4 defense.

To many of our moves last year were stopgap to give us something because we had nothing. If that makes sense.

I think Saban and his staff felt like the playoffs were a goal that was attainable, but i also believe they felt CPEP was further along than he actually was.

Think of Chicago, Jauron had 22 players still on this team, Lovie has added the rest, and as a whole they have all played together for a long time. They went 4-12 2 years ago, 11-5 now look at them.

Time being the key, we need to add some new blood at Linebacker and Offensive Line, continue to develop the players, and build a strong competivie team from the top down that can be competive.

Were on our way its painful to watch but we will get there.

 

[bluehaze]

In his chat today Mort said that Ronnie Brown is a significant disappointment in Miami.

In the open field Ronnie Brown is a big threat and he has great hands but behind the line he has been disappointing this year. I dont think it was quite as obvious last year because of the way we rotated Ricky and Ronnie. Ricky was explosive behind the line which made up for Ronnies deficiencies.

 

[SackArtist]

How Could That Be Wanny And Speilman. Nick Has Changed All The Coaches And 90% Of The Player?

1. Traded 2 1st round picks for Ricky:eek:
2. Traded a 2nd round pick for A.J. Feeley:boohoo:
3. Traded a 3rd round pick for Lamar Gordon :shakeno:
4. Terrible Draft Picks (Jamar Fletcher, Taylor, Whitley, Wade Smith).
5. Gave big contracts to Reggie Howard, Jeno James, Madison.:fire:

Basically, the youth on this team was depleted and the salary cap was a mess. Nick Saban took over a bad situation but he is slowly building the team back up.

BTW, just because we changed over 90% of the players doesn't mean we got the players Saban really wanted. We don't have much salary cap space.