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Phillips is really turning in to Jason Taylor reincarnated. I know he'll alwways be linked to Rousseau but from what I've seen this dude has an upside like no other and a motor that reminds me of Taylor, with perhaps better range and speed.

For a guy that quit football he's remained healthy and his dedication to the weight room and staying in top notch condition will only work to his advantage late in the season or realizing his full potential / ceiling.

Can't wait for this guy to keep getting better. We haven't even touched his upside. Once he gets going at a high level he's could be a perennial DPOY candidate.
 
Mach2 said:
Hmmm...... Comparing JP to a HOF pass rusher? A little premature?
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Doesn't mean I think JP will be in the HOF. What I am seeing are movements, speed and a motor that mimic Jason Taylor's playing style.

He may never come close to JT, but for the first time in a long time we have a pass rusher that we've drafted that has the potential to be very very good. No more Charles Harris or Dion Jordan ****.
 
Bumrush said:
Phillips is really turning in to Jason Taylor reincarnated. I know he'll alwways be linked to Rousseau but from what I've seen this dude has an upside like no other and a motor that reminds me of Taylor, with perhaps better range and speed.

For a guy that quit football he's remained healthy and his dedication to the weight room and staying in top notch condition will only work to his advantage late in the season or realizing his full potential / ceiling.

Can't wait for this guy to keep getting better. We haven't even touched his upside. Once he gets going at a high level he's could be a perennial DPOY candidate.
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15 was all over the field yesterday! He was relentless. Excited for him, Chubb, and Ingram being out on the field at the same time.
 
Mach2 said:
Hmmm...... Comparing JP to a HOF pass rusher? A little premature?
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he didn't say he was going to be a HOF'er, he said he reminds him of Taylor when playing. That's a big difference and the media does it all the time, the comparisons are valid this season, the kid as really turned it on.

While I agree saying "he is the next Taylor" is premature he certainly is on the right trajectory to become the next Taylor, keep in mind Taylor didn't have his first truly "elite" season until his 4th year.
 
Virginia99 said:
15 was all over the field yesterday! He was relentless. Excited for him, Chubb, and Ingram being out on the field at the same time.
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Yeah, props to Ingram. He may be aged to the point he isn't an every down player anymore, but as a rotational piece, he's playing his ass off.
 
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MARINO1384 said:
Ehh doesn’t have nearly the skill as JT however might be a better athlete. His motor and speed are pretty crazy. He’s constantly chasing down players. Needs to work on his pass rush moves but his pure athleticism is off the charts.
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He had a beautiful spin move to the inside off a double team yesterday.
 
NY8123 said:
he didn't say he was going to be a HOF'er, he said he reminds him of Taylor when playing. That's a big difference and the media does it all the time, the comparisons are valid this season, the kid as really turned it on.

While I agree saying "he is the next Taylor" is premature he certainly is on the right trajectory to become the next Taylor, keep in mind Taylor didn't have his first truly "elite" season until his 4th year.
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Yeah, I know ppl, and the media to some extent do it. That doesn't make it valid or rational. Yesterday on the CBS pregame show, one of the "analysts" said something comparing R. Smith to Ray Lewis. That is just as silly, IMO.

I don't care if ppl do it, but by the same token, they shouldn't be surprised when others don't take them seriously.

I prefer to let players stand on their own merits, particularly when it's comparing a guy with less than 20 NFL starts to guys with a decade+ long career, that have taken over games, come up huge in high pressure playoff situations, etc.
 
Mach2 said:
Yeah, I know ppl, and the media to some extent do it. That doesn't make it valid or rational. Yesterday on the CBS pregame show, one of the "analysts" said something comparing R. Smith to Ray Lewis. That is just as silly, IMO.

I don't care if ppl do it, but by the same token, they shouldn't be surprised when others don't take them seriously.

I prefer to let players stand on their own merits, particularly when it's comparing a guy with less than 20 NFL starts to guys with a decade+ long career, that have taken over games, come up huge in high pressure playoff situations, etc.
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I mean it's not that hard of a comparison at this point to draw:

Taylor
42 tackles 5 sacks 2 FF
52 Tackles 9 Sacks 3 FF

Phillips
42 tackles 8.5 sacks 0 FF
37 tackles 4.5 sacks 0 FF (thru 10 games)

Other than the lack of forced fumbles which Taylor was a master at it's damn close. That was the one thing Taylor did better than any other end, non-offensive touchdowns, Taylor has 9 of them. to put that into perspective that ties him with Cordarrelle Patterson, that's insane lol.
 
NY8123 said:
I mean it's not that hard of a comparison at this point to draw:

Taylor
42 tackles 5 sacks 2 FF
52 Tackles 9 Sacks 3 FF

Phillips
42 tackles 8.5 sacks 0 FF
37 tackles 4.5 sacks 0 FF (thru 10 games)

Other than the lack of forced fumbles which Taylor was a master at it's damn close. That was the one thing Taylor did better than any other end, non-offensive touchdowns, Taylor has 9 of them. to put that into perspective that ties him with Cordarrelle Patterson, that's insane lol.
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Not to get into a big debate here, but you already admitted that Taylor didn't have a great start to his career. Now you are saying that because they both were OK-meh early on that some kind of comp is valid?

I'm not about to waste my time doing it, but I would hazard a guess that one could easily find a couple dozen examples of guys with similar numbers their first two years that never became great players. Just because they both happen to be Dolphins, that doesn't change an individual's odds of becoming a HOF type talent.

No big deal here. Its homer speak, rather than emotionless, unbiased critical thinking. I get it.
 
I think we would like to see him continue to develop, I think Ingram and Chubb can help each other do just that. This pass rush with the big boy in the middle and lock down corners would be hard to beat. No reason for Phillips and Chubb not to strike fear into opponents for a few seasons to come.
 
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