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Props to Tannehill

Andy Dalton is third all time behind Marino and Peyton for TD throws his first 2 years. I'd be pretty happy with that production.

Makes my point even more valid. He had 3 INTs and a lost fumble. And we're talking about Tannehill not doing anything in this game? How does that work?
 
Wow! A lot of miscommunication in this thread. One group is saying Tannehill's performance is average when compared with all of the quarterbacks in the league. This is a very accurate statement. We need better performances if we want to consistently win in this league. The other group is saying that this was a good performance for Tannehill. They are comparing Tannehill versus his other performances. They are looking for him to climb the ladder. This group believes this level of performance or slightly better is what we need every week from Tannehill. This is an accurate statement.

My personal opinion is that I want the Dolphins to win each and every week. One way for the team to accomplish this goal is for Tannehill to improve each and every week. I will count this performance as an improvement. I really want him to be a top 10 QB for the next eight games. I just do not believe that is realistic, so I will root for little improvements and steady progress.
 
If you look at skill and moxie and mojo you look at the last minute not the overall game which can be argued any way you like - the last minute was CHAMP! - the OT was less than spectacular but everyone who has eyes can see that this is the makings of a good pro - top 15 QB already maybe he makes top 10 down the road but this kid is smiling in the final minute of a game that is pivotal when things didn't all go their way -> he is having a ball and he is keeping his O relaxed, they came out with zero TOs in the last minute and OT -> and Cinci new the game plan the last minute was to go to the sidelines and he still managed a way -> yes they were jumping routes he didn't care -> he doesn't have a Pro bowl RB or WR in nay way shape or form and he just got the job done BIG TIME!! - the final minutes is what every QB gets measured on this is about elevating your team and getting WINS! TOs and TDs are not all that counts in the BIG PICTURE -> just in your fantasy Football leagues

Bottom line -> they truly greats get remembered for the last few minutes of games
 
A very good game? Man our standards have become low....lol. Cheers on the win though!

Totally agree. Tanny's play hs been so terrible that this now constitutes a 'very good game'. He is nothing more than a below average QB.
 
Haha, I can tell. I'm joking, but the defense gave up 3 points in the first half. They gave up a drive in the second half and then had to turn around and do it again. That's part of the reason they were so bad on 3rd downs. Also the Bengals have Green and Bernard who are tough to tackle, and it's tougher once you get tired. Now on the night the defense had 5 sacks, 4 forced turnovers, scored 9 points, and gave up 20. It's not a dominant performance, but it's pretty darn good.
They had given up 6 of 11 third- and fourth-down conversions in the game prior to Grimes's interception. That's a 55% rate, which is 4% worse than the worst team in the league performs in general in that regard.

So although it's true that defenses get tired from surrendering long drives, which compounds the problem we're talking about, it's also true that the Dolphins' defense was surrendering a very high rate of later-down conversions prior to the point at which you're saying they became tired.

Now, it always helps to do a little research on what you're talking about, especially if you're going to accuse the person you're talking to of not knowing anything about the topic. :)
 
Totally agree. Tanny's play hs been so terrible that this now constitutes a 'very good game'. He is nothing more than a below average QB.

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They had given up 6 of 11 third- and fourth-down conversions in the game prior to Grimes's interception. That's a 55% rate, which is 4% worse than the worst team in the league performs in general in that regard.

So although it's true that defenses get tired from surrendering long drives, which compounds the problem we're talking about, it's also true that the Dolphins' defense was surrendering a very high rate of later-down conversions prior to the point at which you're saying they became tired.

Now, it always helps to do a little research on what you're talking about, especially if you're going to accuse the person you're talking to of not knowing anything about the topic. :)

I already admitted I was joking about you not knowing anything. If you want to say that was a bad defensive performance then I can't stop you. You are wrong though.
 
I already admitted I was joking about you not knowing anything. If you want to say that was a bad defensive performance then I can't stop you. You are wrong though.
Well, and I sure can't stop you from thinking that surrendering a rate of third down conversions that's only 1% better than the worst team in the league does in general in that regard, leading to 90+ plays for the opposing team on the night, about 30 more than is typical in the NFL, is not bad. :)
 
Well, and I sure can't stop you from thinking that surrendering a rate of third down conversions that's only 1% better than the worst team in the league does in general in that regard, leading to 90+ plays for the opposing team on the night, about 30 more than is typical in the NFL, is not bad. :)


Yes the defense was awful last night. Worst in the league.
 
Strawman.

That's what you are telling me. You are using their 3rd down conversion rate to determine the entire performance. If their 3rd down rate is the worst in the league, then you are telling me they are the worst in the league. Obviously I'm oversimplifying, but my point is that third down conversion rate doesn't mean everything.
 
That's what you are telling me. You are using their 3rd down conversion rate to determine the entire performance. If their 3rd down rate is the worst in the league, then you are telling me they are the worst in the league. Obviously I'm oversimplifying, but my point is that third down conversion rate doesn't mean everything.
Here was my original post on this topic:

The defense might have won the game, but it also kept the game closer than it should've been. The Dolphins won the turnover battle 4 to 1, its QB rating was well above Cincinnati's, and it had a sufficient number of rushes and yards per carry not to be one-dimensional on offense. These are all factors very strongly correlated with winning in the NFL.

With those differences in the game, the Dolphins should've won the game in a relative blowout, but what kept the game so close was the defense's inability to stop 3rd down conversions, and the ridiculous number of plays that gave Cincinnati. They simply had a tremendous number of chances to drive the ball down the field and put points on the board, which is exactly what made it a close game despite the differences I outlined above.
 
Here was my original post on this topic:

All I'm saying is the defense played a heck of a game. If you disagree, then so be it. Could the offense only putting up 13 points have something to do with keeping the game close?
 
All I'm saying is the defense played a heck of a game. If you disagree, then so be it. Could the offense only putting up 13 points have something to do with keeping the game close?
If you look here:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/drivestats

...you'll see that the Dolphins have a problem with net drive yardage and net drive success rate, which represents a problem with both the offense and defense, and I don't think last night was any different.
 
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