Proven Free Agents are a Necessity

[phishinphin]

The 2006 and 2007 drafts were complete wastes. We have no real contributors from either of these drafts. Soliai comes the closest with Ginn and Jason Allen right there. But 3 marginal players in 2 drafts is just horrendous.

This illustrates why trading a pick or picks for proven NFL talent is not all bad. With this said, I wouldn't mind the following:

The 12th pick has to be used to upgrade our defense. Hopefully McClain.

Our second or third should be or could be used to get a veteran reciever to mentor the young guys we have. Let's face it, coaches can only do so much. I think someone who is out there doing it, is far more believable. My preferance would be Boldin. Marshall and Bryant I think have too many character issues.

Depending on demands and availability, another draft choice for a NT or ILB wouldn't be all bad.

The balance of the draft can then be spent on best fit for our needs.

 

[3rdandinches]

The 2006 and 2007 drafts were complete wastes. We have no real contributors from either of these drafts. Soliai comes the closest with Ginn and Jason Allen right there. But 3 marginal players in 2 drafts is just horrendous.

This illustrates why trading a pick or picks for proven NFL talent is not all bad. With this said, I wouldn't mind the following:

The 12th pick has to be used to upgrade our defense. Hopefully McClain.

Our second or third should be or could be used to get a veteran reciever to mentor the young guys we have. Let's face it, coaches can only do so much. I think someone who is out there doing it, is far more believable. My preferance would be Boldin. Marshall and Bryant I think have too many character issues.

Depending on demands and availability, another draft choice for a NT or ILB wouldn't be all bad.

The balance of the draft can then be spent on best fit for our needs.

So why trade for a proven injured player when you can sign A.Bryant without spending draft picks?

FA is best when used properly i.e. Well spent money, getting help where the draft can't. Signing Haynesworth to that contract would have been horrible for us, trading for Boldin and chancing that come playoff time we could easily have Boldin and Brown in street clothing isn't a good decision.

We need to move away from players with injury histories and use FA as best as we can long term.

 

[lucid22]

So why trade for a proven injured player when you can sign A.Bryant without spending draft picks?

FA is best when used properly i.e. Well spent money, getting help where the draft can't. Signing Haynesworth to that contract would have been horrible for us, trading for Boldin and chancing that come playoff time we could easily have Boldin and Brown in street clothing isn't a good decision.

We need to move away from players with injury histories and use FA as best as we can long term.

Isn't A. Bryant injury prone?

 

[phishinphin]

So why trade for a proven injured player when you can sign A.Bryant without spending draft picks?

FA is best when used properly i.e. Well spent money, getting help where the draft can't. Signing Haynesworth to that contract would have been horrible for us, trading for Boldin and chancing that come playoff time we could easily have Boldin and Brown in street clothing isn't a good decision.

We need to move away from players with injury histories and use FA as best as we can long term.

A. Bryant has character issues especially with Parcells. Grove is a proven injury problem but we took a chance on him.

I agree with spending money wisely.

Let me ask you this. Where do you propose we get a receiver? Drafting another one is a gamble just like injuries are a gamble. Who is then the mentor of ALL these young guys?

 

[houtz]

A. Bryant has character issues especially with Parcells. Grove is a proven injury problem but we took a chance on him.

I agree with spending money wisely.

Let me ask you this. Where do you propose we get a receiver? Drafting another one is a gamble just like injuries are a gamble. Who is then the mentor of ALL these young guys?

Parcells and Bryant have been on good terms for a year or so now. Definitely no real "character issues" at least not anymore.

 

[phishinphin]

Parcells and Bryant have been on good terms for a year or so now. Definitely no real "character issues" at least not anymore.

In 7 years he has had 2 stints in Dallas and Cleveland, San Fran and Tampa. There's a reason he hasn't stuck to a team.

He has averaged less than 1,000 yards and 4 TDs per season. This past year, 600 yards and 4 TDs. So what is there about this guy that has you all so excited. He's 6'1" 205. Not even a great physical specimen. He made that amazing catch last season. That's all I can guess is what is remembered about him.

 

[3rdandinches]

In 7 years he has had 2 stints in Dallas and Cleveland, San Fran and Tampa. There's a reason he hasn't stuck to a team.

He has averaged less than 1,000 yards and 4 TDs per season. This past year, 600 yards and 4 TDs. So what is there about this guy that has you all so excited. He's 6'1" 205. Not even a great physical specimen. He made that amazing catch last season. That's all I can guess is what is remembered about him.

I have a problem with giving up picks, having to re-sign a guy to a real big contract, only finished 16 games twice in 7 years and is 29. A.Bryant won't cost picks, won't be nearly as expensive, played 16 games twice as many seasons as Boldin, is 28 and has a higher average per catch. His yards aren't as good but his QB's were J.Freeman, J.Johnson, B.Leftwich, Q.Carter, V.Testaverde, D.Henson, K.Holcomb, L.McCown, T.Dilfer, S.Hill and the best of all J.Garcia for 1 season. Compare that list to J.Blake, J.McCown and then future hall of famer K.Warner since 2005.

I also don't have a problem with leaving the core alone and improving the TE play. But I certainly don't want to trade picks for someone that can't stay on the field. Boldin is real good but not worth it if the asking price is anything near a 2nd round. I'd much rather bring in Bryant for the above stated reasons.

 

[Valandui]

Isn't A. Bryant injury prone?

Not really. The Bucs rushed him back too soon from an injury, so he hasn't been one hundred percent at all this season.

 

[Amanojacu]

I agree that its important for this team to bring in a few proven free agents, but I would rather do it without giving up the draft picks. If we are targeting anyone in free agency it should be Dansby from the Cards (as long as he isn't franchised again).

 

[3rdandinches]

I agree that its important for this team to bring in a few proven free agents, but I would rather do it without giving up the draft picks. If we are targeting anyone in free agency it should be Dansby from the Cards (as long as he isn't franchised again).

I thought his 1 year deal was agreed upon with the arrangement of not being able to be tagged again.

 

[Amanojacu]

I thought his 1 year deal was agreed upon with the arrangement of not being able to be tagged again.

I hope that is the case. Not that we would necessarily spend the money to bring him in, but one can always hope.

 

[DownUnderFin]

IMHO, we have to go defense with the draft (at least early on) and use FA to provide support for the core of the team. You can't cater for every scenario and land the right player 100% of the time, so as long as the FO has a plan, which of course they do, we just need to trust in their decisions.

Defense seems the way to go, since we got Nolan, so let him contribute to the success of the Dolphins.

BTW: Valandui - smokin' pic! I can't concentrate...who is it?

 

[Lorenzo Rules]

I disagree DownUnder only that we have suxed on f/a aquisitions for the last 6 years and we cant rely on the draft alone.

I say just draft Dez Bryant , Erick Norwood and rb Montana Hardesty dt John Fletcher and one more linebacker and then add a ot , te, and safety in f./a

 

[DownUnderFin]

Can you really see the team drafting a WR @ 12? It might be nice to do it but we'll go LB where our need is greater.

I agree with you that we can't rely on the draft alone. We even made mistakes in last year's FA, hopefully we just minimise the risk with what we do this year.

 

[phishinphin]

Can you really see the team drafting a WR @ 12? It might be nice to do it but we'll go LB where our need is greater.

I agree with you that we can't rely on the draft alone. We even made mistakes in last year's FA, hopefully we just minimise the risk with what we do this year.

That was the point of this whole thread to begin with. We HAVE to use Free Agency as well as the draft. But we must do both wisely. I was trying to counter the guys who say we can't give up picks by illustrating that for the 2 years listed, we got almost nothing out of the draft. Those drafts should be the core of our team now. They would be heading into their 4th and 5th seasons.