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How many other teams have "competition" at the QB position?
QB? Should the Miami Dolphins draft a QB and avoid a potential Ryan Tannehill repeat?
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Nobody realistically wants Tua replaced... but I'm guessing everyone wants to win.... and keep winning.
Drafting a Qb w/the first pick is a move to consider IF a #1 prospect falls in your lap (unless you trade it for more) because it gives you the Drew Bledsoe/Tom Brady type of problem that you have time to watch grow .... and of course, cap considerations in a yr. or two or again a trade scenario... either way it could be a long-term gain.
Our team needs talent and cap relief.... doubling down on the talent @qb isn't the smartest move IMO because of the lack of talent and depth ... drafting a QB at some point is smart if it doesn't impede your overall progress of collecting as much talent as possible.
The draft is a gamble. Is our team in a good position to gamble? I don't think so.
Drafting a Qb w/the first pick is a move to consider IF a #1 prospect falls in your lap (unless you trade it for more) because it gives you the Drew Bledsoe/Tom Brady type of problem that you have time to watch grow .... and of course, cap considerations in a yr. or two or again a trade scenario... either way it could be a long-term gain.
Our team needs talent and cap relief.... doubling down on the talent @qb isn't the smartest move IMO because of the lack of talent and depth ... drafting a QB at some point is smart if it doesn't impede your overall progress of collecting as much talent as possible.
The draft is a gamble. Is our team in a good position to gamble? I don't think so.
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only scenario is if Tua Want's Burrow $ and Pennix somehow falls to miami. He seems like a qb that could come on fast like Stroud and has fast processing and anticipation and accuracy like Tua. But with a strong arm, bigger and highly athletic
Miami Dolphins needs to draft a quarterback
Ryan Tannehill was selected 8th overall in the 2012 NFL draft. The highest draft selection ever made by the Miami Dolphins on a quarterback. This was a playerphinphanatic.com
The Miami Dolphins are in the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row but should QB be a focus in the NFL Draft given Tua Tagovailoa's future?
Ryan Tannehill was selected 8th overall in the 2012 NFL draft. The highest draft selection ever made by the Miami Dolphins on a quarterback. This was a player who was deemed a prospect that would allow the Dolphins to stop the quarterback carousel they have had since Dan Marino retired. The hype was justified. His former collegiate head coach, was also the Miami Dolphins new Offensive Coordinator. The way Tannehill played justified his 8th overall selection during his time at Texas A&M, thereby leading to hope. Hope for the Miami Dolphins fans.
Tannehill's tenure with the Dolphins was met with a lot of ups and downs. He played well enough to earn a second contract, where the Dolphins in 2015 re-signed him to a 6 year, 96 Million dollar contract. Which at that time was substantial. A large commitment to a player with a large history of injury concerns.
The Dolphins, after signing Tannehill to that contract, never saw him play a full season nor play in a playoff game. This eventually led to him being traded to the Titans for a bag of footballs. Basically, a salary clearing trade that was best for both teams.
Where am I going with all of this - history tends to repeat itself with the Miami Dolphins. Fast forward to the present and the Dolphins have a decision to make about Tua Tagovailoa. Yes, the Dolphins picked up Tua's 5th-year option, which will ensure that he will start the 2024, and 2025 seasons, but should they look to re-sign him to a lucrative deal, knowing the injury concerns assigned to Tua?
You need to also take into consideration the Miami Dolphins cap situation. Remember, this offseason, Connor Williams, Chris Wilkins, Robert Hunt and Andrew Van Ginkel are all unrestricted free agents.
Then, Jaylen Waddle, Jaelan Phillips, and Jevon Holland are all looking for contract extensions, with the latter being an unrestricted free agent.
Lastly, it’s not like the Miami Dolphins have a plethora of cap space, they are actually forecasted to be 41MM over the cap. This means a lot of restructures, cuts, trades, and potentially deferring to future years, which doesn’t fix the cap, just punts it to another year.
Do the Dolphins really want to add a 40 to 50 million cap hit on a starting quarterback with injury concerns? Or should they look to foster a team that is built to win.
The Dolphins can achieve this by drafting a quarterback with their 1st round pick in this year's upcoming draft. If Tua leads the Dolphins to an AFC championship game or even the Super Bowl, then yes, this becomes a moot point. But what happens if it is a one and done playoff experience?
Getting a young QB prospect that is cap friendly for the next four to five seasons, and a team that is built to win is a strategy that has paid off. Having Tua around next year to mentor, groom, and teach a prospect is another advantage for the development of the prospect.
Who can they look to target - Caleb Williams is the cream of the crop and a player with a laser arm, and no injury concerns, but let’s be realistic. He’s going top 3. The Dolphins potentially look to create a trade-up scenario similar to how the Bills got Josh Allen, or how the Chiefs obtained Patrick Mahomes.
The opportunity will present itself, the Dolphins would be wise to consider a move of this magnitude. Or, they can look to repeat history. Resign Tua, just like they did Tannehill and hope they don’t trade him 5 years from now.
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Yeah but Brady was a 6th round pick that no one thought was any good. You don't go spending a #1 on a QB unless you are wanting to change your current starter.
I also believe there are plenty even on this board that want Tua replaced. They aren't sure by how, it seems like anyone will do sometimes as long as it's not Tua.
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We don’t have a 3rd or 4th round pick. So are you advocating drafting a QB in the 1st or 2nd round?
If so, that is a bizarre strategy considering all of the help we need on the OL and at OLB/DE.
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Limited draft picks this year and Miami is going to need cheap talent on both sides of the line so if they take a QB in the 2nd then I guess they would be moving on from Tua.
Get bent with this nonsense crap.Miami Dolphins needs to draft a quarterback
Ryan Tannehill was selected 8th overall in the 2012 NFL draft. The highest draft selection ever made by the Miami Dolphins on a quarterback. This was a player
The Miami Dolphins are in the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row but should QB be a focus in the NFL Draft given Tua Tagovailoa's future?
Ryan Tannehill was selected 8th overall in the 2012 NFL draft. The highest draft selection ever made by the Miami Dolphins on a quarterback. This was a player who was deemed a prospect that would allow the Dolphins to stop the quarterback carousel they have had since Dan Marino retired. The hype was justified. His former collegiate head coach, was also the Miami Dolphins new Offensive Coordinator. The way Tannehill played justified his 8th overall selection during his time at Texas A&M, thereby leading to hope. Hope for the Miami Dolphins fans.
Tannehill's tenure with the Dolphins was met with a lot of ups and downs. He played well enough to earn a second contract, where the Dolphins in 2015 re-signed him to a 6 year, 96 Million dollar contract. Which at that time was substantial. A large commitment to a player with a large history of injury concerns.
The Dolphins, after signing Tannehill to that contract, never saw him play a full season nor play in a playoff game. This eventually led to him being traded to the Titans for a bag of footballs. Basically, a salary clearing trade that was best for both teams.
Where am I going with all of this - history tends to repeat itself with the Miami Dolphins. Fast forward to the present and the Dolphins have a decision to make about Tua Tagovailoa. Yes, the Dolphins picked up Tua's 5th-year option, which will ensure that he will start the 2024, and 2025 seasons, but should they look to re-sign him to a lucrative deal, knowing the injury concerns assigned to Tua?
You need to also take into consideration the Miami Dolphins cap situation. Remember, this offseason, Connor Williams, Chris Wilkins, Robert Hunt and Andrew Van Ginkel are all unrestricted free agents.
Then, Jaylen Waddle, Jaelan Phillips, and Jevon Holland are all looking for contract extensions, with the latter being an unrestricted free agent.
Lastly, it’s not like the Miami Dolphins have a plethora of cap space, they are actually forecasted to be 41MM over the cap. This means a lot of restructures, cuts, trades, and potentially deferring to future years, which doesn’t fix the cap, just punts it to another year.
Do the Dolphins really want to add a 40 to 50 million cap hit on a starting quarterback with injury concerns? Or should they look to foster a team that is built to win.
The Dolphins can achieve this by drafting a quarterback with their 1st round pick in this year's upcoming draft. If Tua leads the Dolphins to an AFC championship game or even the Super Bowl, then yes, this becomes a moot point. But what happens if it is a one and done playoff experience?
Getting a young QB prospect that is cap friendly for the next four to five seasons, and a team that is built to win is a strategy that has paid off. Having Tua around next year to mentor, groom, and teach a prospect is another advantage for the development of the prospect.
Who can they look to target - Caleb Williams is the cream of the crop and a player with a laser arm, and no injury concerns, but let’s be realistic. He’s going top 3. The Dolphins potentially look to create a trade-up scenario similar to how the Bills got Josh Allen, or how the Chiefs obtained Patrick Mahomes.
The opportunity will present itself, the Dolphins would be wise to consider a move of this magnitude. Or, they can look to repeat history. Resign Tua, just like they did Tannehill and hope they don’t trade him 5 years from now.
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What other top team has competition at the QB position?
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I'm not advocating it... just replying to a thread ... why does everyone want to argue instead of supporting their thoughts with some reason?
The point w/Brady was an example of why you draft at the position at all...if a top prospect falls (not Brady) you pounce (draft/trade) .... if that was misrepresented then it was accidental.
I pointed out reasons why you could spend a #1 on a Qb regardless ... if you choose not to, cool.... probably te right call.
I ended with this...
The draft is a gamble. Is our team in a good position to gamble? I don't think so.
As long as McDaniel remains HC, its safe to say Tua will be the QB for the foreseeable future. Tua's numbers are what they are. Those numbers show he's an above average QB, who has great accuracy, touch, intelligence and leadership. Tua has similar results under two different coaching regimes. Which seems to get overlooked by the media. Only problem has been Tua's injury issues. IMHO Tua has earned a 2nd contract worthy of what the other top QBs earn. This is what you get when multiple draft picks play well enough to earn bigger paydays. And Miami has several players that are worthy. The F/O has its work cut out for them.
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So if Pennix falls do the Dolphins draft him if he's a younger, more athletic, cheaper version of Tua?
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I have no issue drafting mid round prospects for a backup / lottery ticket.
But the idea that if we draft in the first round, we will hit on a QB is folly. It took from 1998 until now to draft a QB that is this good.
Also - we need to hit some high picks on positions of need this year
But the idea that if we draft in the first round, we will hit on a QB is folly. It took from 1998 until now to draft a QB that is this good.
Also - we need to hit some high picks on positions of need this year
Penix will be a top 15 pick lol I’d be shocked if he didn’t go top 10. He’s going to be the best qb in this draft class.
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That's sort of my point. They are the #1 seed in the conference because they stuck with Lamar. No Lamar and the Ravens would be fighting for a wild card at best.
Our fans need some perspective on Tua, he has the ability to lead this team to the #1 seed. Hell, he almost did it this year. There is no way we should be "moving on" from Tua, it's an idiotic thought
HahaMiami Dolphins needs to draft a quarterback
Ryan Tannehill was selected 8th overall in the 2012 NFL draft. The highest draft selection ever made by the Miami Dolphins on a quarterback. This was a player
The Miami Dolphins are in the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row but should QB be a focus in the NFL Draft given Tua Tagovailoa's future?
Ryan Tannehill was selected 8th overall in the 2012 NFL draft. The highest draft selection ever made by the Miami Dolphins on a quarterback. This was a player who was deemed a prospect that would allow the Dolphins to stop the quarterback carousel they have had since Dan Marino retired. The hype was justified. His former collegiate head coach, was also the Miami Dolphins new Offensive Coordinator. The way Tannehill played justified his 8th overall selection during his time at Texas A&M, thereby leading to hope. Hope for the Miami Dolphins fans.
Tannehill's tenure with the Dolphins was met with a lot of ups and downs. He played well enough to earn a second contract, where the Dolphins in 2015 re-signed him to a 6 year, 96 Million dollar contract. Which at that time was substantial. A large commitment to a player with a large history of injury concerns.
The Dolphins, after signing Tannehill to that contract, never saw him play a full season nor play in a playoff game. This eventually led to him being traded to the Titans for a bag of footballs. Basically, a salary clearing trade that was best for both teams.
Where am I going with all of this - history tends to repeat itself with the Miami Dolphins. Fast forward to the present and the Dolphins have a decision to make about Tua Tagovailoa. Yes, the Dolphins picked up Tua's 5th-year option, which will ensure that he will start the 2024, and 2025 seasons, but should they look to re-sign him to a lucrative deal, knowing the injury concerns assigned to Tua?
You need to also take into consideration the Miami Dolphins cap situation. Remember, this offseason, Connor Williams, Chris Wilkins, Robert Hunt and Andrew Van Ginkel are all unrestricted free agents.
Then, Jaylen Waddle, Jaelan Phillips, and Jevon Holland are all looking for contract extensions, with the latter being an unrestricted free agent.
Lastly, it’s not like the Miami Dolphins have a plethora of cap space, they are actually forecasted to be 41MM over the cap. This means a lot of restructures, cuts, trades, and potentially deferring to future years, which doesn’t fix the cap, just punts it to another year.
Do the Dolphins really want to add a 40 to 50 million cap hit on a starting quarterback with injury concerns? Or should they look to foster a team that is built to win.
The Dolphins can achieve this by drafting a quarterback with their 1st round pick in this year's upcoming draft. If Tua leads the Dolphins to an AFC championship game or even the Super Bowl, then yes, this becomes a moot point. But what happens if it is a one and done playoff experience?
Getting a young QB prospect that is cap friendly for the next four to five seasons, and a team that is built to win is a strategy that has paid off. Having Tua around next year to mentor, groom, and teach a prospect is another advantage for the development of the prospect.
Who can they look to target - Caleb Williams is the cream of the crop and a player with a laser arm, and no injury concerns, but let’s be realistic. He’s going top 3. The Dolphins potentially look to create a trade-up scenario similar to how the Bills got Josh Allen, or how the Chiefs obtained Patrick Mahomes.
The opportunity will present itself, the Dolphins would be wise to consider a move of this magnitude. Or, they can look to repeat history. Resign Tua, just like they did Tannehill and hope they don’t trade him 5 years from now.
You wasted all those words for nothing
That’s some terrible drivel
