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Not really Dolphin related, but just wondering does this seem odd to anybody else?

Herbert 22 of 34 for 228 yards 1 td and 0 int = qbr of 40.8
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Brissett 21 of 34 for 230 yards 1 td and 1 int = qbr of 80.9

So same number of attempts and tds, Herbert with 2 fewer yards but no ints compared to Brissett's 1 and Brissett has a qbr that's twice as good? Not sure what all goes into the espn qbr score, but that sure seems strange to me. Like a boxing match with a judges score that doesn't make sense compared to the other two judges score. On my fight card the only area Brissett won was yards and that was by 2 yards. I know qbr takes other things into consideration, but hard to justift Brissett doubling up Herbert's wbr all things considered.
 
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gregorygrant83 said:
Not really Dolphin related, but just wondering does this seem odd to anybody else?

Herbert 22 of 34 for 228 yards 1 td and 0 int = qbr of 40.8
vs
Brissett 21 of 34 for 230 yards 1 td and 1 int = qbr of 80.9

So same number of attempts (Herbert slight edge completions) and tds, Herbert with 2 fewer yards but no ints compared to Brissett's 1 and Brissett has a qbr that's twice as good? Not sure what all goes into the espn qbr score, but that sure seems strange to me. Like a boxing match with a judges score that doesn't make sense compared to the other two judges score.
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It is a highly subjective secret that espn keeps closely guarded and won’t show their “math” to anyone.
 
DolfanISS said:
No it doesn’t.
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So can you roughly explain why Brissett's performance doubles Herbert's? I just don't understand qbr and since it makes sense to you. I'm not trying to be a smart ass, just curious how it works.
 
Ya that seems very odd. Maybe Herbert’s passes were more “hollow”. Eg. third and long that doesn’t get the first down, etc. Maybe more check downs where the RB did all the “work”, etc.
 
gregorygrant83 said:
So can you roughly explain why Brissett's performance doubles Herbert's? I just don't understand qbr and since it makes sense to you. I'm not trying to be a smart ass, just curious how it works.
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I’m guessing situational success, intended air yard, tight window and big time throws are factored in some how. Herbie might have reverted back to his dink and dunk version leaning on yac while brissett might have pushed the ball downfield more. That’s my guess as I didn’t watch either game.
 
Libermaniac said:
Ya that seems very odd. Maybe Herbert’s passes were more “hollow”. Eg. third and long that doesn’t get the first down, etc. Maybe more check downs where the RB did all the “work”, etc.
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He does that a lot!
 
Has to be a play by play measure. Plus that it goes up to 158.6 or something. Like why that number?
 
BennySwella said:
Has to be a play by play measure. Plus that it goes up to 158.6 or something. Like why that number.
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The regular passer rating goes to 158.6, but I believe the qbr doesn't go that high. For this game Herbert had a 93.8 passer rating and Brissett a 79.3
 
QB rating means **** to me. It’s what your QB does in the fourth quarter to help you win. Eli Manning never had flashy fantasy league stats but he played very well in fourth quarters. Throw a pick or two in the first half? What are you doing in the second half to seal the deal
 
EasyRider said:
QB rating means **** to me. It’s what your QB does in the fourth quarter to help you win. Eli Manning never had flashy fantasy league stats but he played very well in fourth quarters. Throw a pick or two in the first half? What are you doing in the second half to seal the deal
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I agree to an extent. I personally would like to see a stat kept of % of drives that a qb leads his team to tds, fgs and into the opponents redzone in general. For example if a qb is moving his offense inside the opponent 30 yardline 60+ % of the time I'll take that regardless of what his passer rating or qbr might be.
 
QB rating is a simple math formula that accounts for Attempts, Completions, Yards, TDs and INTs.
QBR includes those but also situational importance on a play by play basis. As in anything, the more variables you have, the more sample size needed to have reliable results.

Using QBR for a single game analysis is like flipping a coin 5 times, getting 4 heads and concluding that a coinflip probability distribution is 80% heads/20% tails.
 
gregorygrant83 said:
So can you roughly explain why Brissett's performance doubles Herbert's? I just don't understand qbr and since it makes sense to you. I'm not trying to be a smart ass, just curious how it works.
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I’m agreeing with you that but doesn’t make any sense.
 
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