QB's with the same injury as Drew Brees?

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Just wondering if any other QB's in the league, over the last decade or so, have had an indentical injury to Brees, and if so, what was their recovery time and did they regain their previous form? Or did such an injury cause a permanent dip in production?
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[igor79]

chad pennington tore his rotator cuff... he has not been the same clearly

 

[Alex44]

chad pennington tore his rotator cuff... he has not been the same clearly

There a big difference between a torn Labrum *Brees* and a torn Rotator Cuff *Pennington*

Bress may have had a small tear in his cuff but it shouldnt be a big deal


As for QB's that have had this injury....none are coming to mind

 

[footballannie]

I have heard that Rich Gannon came back from a torn labrum and played for about 10 years, winning MVP of the league one of those years. I think he has been quoted saying his shoulder actually felt stronger after the rehab. I've seen the article quoted somewhere.

Phil Simms also had the same injury - and stated his shoulder recovered fully, but it was near the end of his career and he ended up retiring rather than going to another team.

There are some college QBs, who have recovered fully also. I'm hopeful about Brees' recovery, and the Miami docs must be as well, since they have put him at the top of their list.

Don't know anyone else. Pennington's injury was much more severe, from what I understand. His couldn't be repaired arthroscopically, he had open surgery on his shoulder with a complete rotator cuff tear.

 

[Skeet84]

Hopefully he heals up fine and turns out to sign with us. I honestly don't care whether we get Drew Brees or Daunte Culpepper cause either is a Huge improvment!

 

[ATL-DOLFAN]

I thought he had a torn labrum and partially torn rotator cuff.

 

[Skeet84]

I thought he had a torn labrum and partially torn rotator cuff.

Thats is true but the Cuff is not that bad and Labrum can heal and be 100%. Well we hope anyway

 

[jbond]

There a big difference between a torn Labrum *Brees* and a torn Rotator Cuff *Pennington*

Bress may have had a small tear in his cuff but it shouldnt be a big deal

As for QB's that have had this injury....none are coming to mind

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351620

"On Jan. 5, Brees underwent arthroscopic surgery to repair his shoulder capsule and a partially torn rotator cuff. "

...the extent of his tear is not readily known although no one knew about the torn rotator cuff until very recently and, as you mentioned,...a torn cuff is a lot more serious then just a tightened or torn labrum.

 

[Shamboubou]

Another person with the same injury but is not a QB, is Andy Pettit. Same motion in throwing though and he had not lost any power.

 

[prolific]

Hopefully he heals up fine and turns out to sign with us. I honestly don't care whether we get Drew Brees or Daunte Culpepper cause either is a Huge improvment!

This may be the most sensible post I have seen on the subject. I agree fully!!!:D :D :D

 

[buckeyebolt]

I have heard that Rich Gannon came back from a torn labrum and played for about 10 years, winning MVP of the league one of those years. I think he has been quoted saying his shoulder actually felt stronger after the rehab. I've seen the article quoted somewhere.

Phil Simms also had the same injury - and stated his shoulder recovered fully, but it was near the end of his career and he ended up retiring rather than going to another team.

There are some college QBs, who have recovered fully also. I'm hopeful about Brees' recovery, and the Miami docs must be as well, since they have put him at the top of their list.

Don't know anyone else. Pennington's injury was much more severe, from what I understand. His couldn't be repaired arthroscopically, he had open surgery on his shoulder with a complete rotator cuff tear.

I can vouch for all of this.

Last year, San Diego State's QB had the same injury at the end of the college year. He didn't miss any time and reported being 100% through lst season. Said his arm actually felt stonger - probably due to all the intense rehabbing strengthening the entire shoulder.

 

[tylerdolphin]

Rich Gannon had the same thing and won MVP and went to the SB after it.

 

[pilotfish]

I think rotator cuff injuries are more common to pitchers. I'm not going to research it, but I'm certain that there have been many that have come back from the surgery with no ill effects.

I had surgery for a torn labrum and a torn rotator cuff this past July. I work out pretty hard (for an old guy) and right now my shoulder is feeling pretty good. I'm not without some discomfort, but I foresee a complete recovery, certainly within 1 year from the surgery.
A couple of points regarding this. First, my injury was sustained in a hard fall while snow skiing in March of 2004. I waited 1 1/2 years to have it repaired. Therefore, it needed to be "freshened", meaning the ligaments needed to be re-abraided so they would knit. The recovery period was lengthened because of this.
My thinking is that because the injury to Brees was sustained in a fall as opposed to throwing, it is hopefully less likely to re-occur. I'm not a doctor, but if the stress on the tissues was caused by an inappropriate throwing motion, I'd be more concerned. A fall is a fall and anybody can hurt anything by falling.
Additionally, heck...I'm 50. I expect to play tennis this summer and I play with the shoulder I injured. I'm going skiing this week. I'm an aggressive skier, have been skiing most of my life, and expect no ill effects. I've been doing light lifting for a solid two months, and my strength is returning. And folks, I do not have a team of highly-paid professionals monitoring my every move. I really don't think there is significant reason for concern regarding the shoulder.

 

[tylerdolphin]

I think rotator cuff injuries are more common to pitchers. I'm not going to research it, but I'm certain that there have been many that have come back from the surgery with no ill effects.

I had surgery for a torn labrum and a torn rotator cuff this past July. I work out pretty hard (for an old guy) and right now my shoulder is feeling pretty good. I'm not without some discomfort, but I foresee a complete recovery, certainly within 1 year from the surgery.
A couple of points regarding this. First, my injury was sustained in a hard fall while snow skiing in March of 2004. I waited 1 1/2 years to have it repaired. Therefore, it needed to be "freshened", meaning the ligaments needed to be re-abraided so they would knit. The recovery period was lengthened because of this.
My thinking is that because the injury to Brees was sustained in a fall as opposed to throwing, it is hopefully less likely to re-occur. I'm not a doctor, but if the stress on the tissues was caused by an inappropriate throwing motion, I'd be more concerned. A fall is a fall and anybody can hurt anything by falling.
Additionally, heck...I'm 50. I expect to play tennis this summer and I play with the shoulder I injured. I'm going skiing this week. I'm an aggressive skier, have been skiing most of my life, and expect no ill effects. I've been doing light lifting for a solid two months, and my strength is returning. And folks, I do not have a team of highly-paid professionals monitoring my every move. I really don't think there is significant reason for concern regarding the shoulder.

Great post

 

[PAFINFAN090]

Said his arm actually felt stonger - probably due to all the intense rehabbing strengthening the entire shoulder.

AGREED. AND IF HE IS REHABBING WITH THE PEOPLE I THINK HE IS IN BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA, THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE BEST IN THE COUNTRY. THEY'VE FIXED THEIR FAIR SHARE OF SUPERSTARS IN THE PAST.