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Does anyone have any history regarding the past drafts of Hickey and Mark Dominik? I was curious to see if the "leaks" about their draft boards and preferences were pretty close or if he is known for throwing out a lot of smokescreens leading up to the draft. Also, was the media pretty accurate in their mock drafts for the Bucs in viewing their needs and players available? Thank you for any help!
 
cant really judge since Domanik was the actual GM. Nobody knew who he was for most part until this year when we were looking for GMs
 
 
2005: Running back Carnell Williams, picked fifth overall, was a disappointment (3.8 average in seven seasons), with Adam Jones, Antrel Rolle and DeMarcus Ware among those chosen shortly after. But linebacker Barrett Rudd, selected 36th, became a quality starter.

• 2006: Davin Joseph (23) and Jeremy Trueblood (59) became solid pieces on the offensive line. Third-round receiver Maurice Stovall had just 52 career catches.

• 2007: Defensive end Gaines Adams, taken fourth overall, didn’t quite fulfill expectations, was traded to Chicago for a second-rounder and died in 2010 from a heart condition.

The Buccaneers also took guard Arron Sears (35), who was very good for two seasons before developing a neurological condition that ended his career; selected a four-year starting safety in Tanard Jackson (106); and over-drafted journeyman safety Sabby Piscitelli at 64.

• 2008: Talented Aqib Talib (picked 20th) had 17 interceptions in his first four seasons before being traded to New England. Receiver Dexter Jackson (58th) was out of the league within two years, but center Jeremy Zuttah (83rd) has been a decent starter.

• 2009: Quarterback Josh Freeman, picked 17th, made the Pro Bowl in his second season before a sharp decline in performance led to his release this past October. Defensive tackle Roy Miller, picked 83rd, started for Jacksonville this season. Only one of the Buccaneers’ other four picks (E.J. Biggers) is still in the league.

• 2010: Gerald McCoy (picked third) has become a Pro Bowl defensive tackle, but the 35th pick (UCLA defensive tackle Brian Price) — chosen one spot before Chiefs running back/Pro Bowl punt returner Dexter McCluster — is out of the league. Receiver Arrelious Benn, picked 39th (three spots before Rob Gronkowski), disappointed and was traded to Philadelphia last year. But receivers Mike Williams (101) and linebacker Dekoda Watson (217) were good value picks.

• 2011: Tampa made prudent selections at No. 20 with Adrian Clayborn (13 sacks in 35 games) and at 84 with linebacker Mason Foster (92 tackles, two sacks, three interceptions this season). But Da’Quan Bowers, picked 51st, has faded (one sack this season) after showing flashes early on.

• 2012: Dominik gives Hickey some of the credit for a draft that yielded three players that made the All-rookie team: safety Mark Barron (No. 7), running back Doug Martin (No. 31) and linebacker Lavonte David, the 58th pick, who has blossomed into a standout (144 tackles, six sacks, five interceptions this season).

• 2013: Tampa Bay didn’t have a first-round pick. Cornerback Johnthan Banks (chosen 43rd) had three interceptions in a backup role. Dominik said Hickey was on board with the smart selections of quarterback Mike Glennon at No. 73 and former UM running back Mike James at 189.
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I dug this up from a recent article its the drafts they had. But you can't say with any certainty how big of a role Hickey played
 
nick1 said:
 

I dug this up from a recent article its the drafts they had. But you can't say with any certainty how big of a role Hickey played
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He appears to have a decent eye for talent.
 
Here is what you do! Take all the good picks and credit them to Hickey! Take all the bad picks and credit them to Dominick, Allen and mcCay.
 
flynryan15 said:
Here is what you do! Take all the good picks and credit them to Hickey! Take all the bad picks and credit them to Dominick, Allen and mcCay.
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Reminds me a lot of trying to differentiate between parcells and the irish boss' picks
 
the ONLY question worth asking in this is what did MARK DOMINIC do as he was the GM, not hickey and HE made the pics, not hickey.

we do not know how often [or not] hickey advised that a certain player be picked but the GM went with another guy.

mark dominic made ALL the draft pic decisions for the bucs just as HICKEY will be doing for us this year.

CASE IN POINT: when wanny was here and ANQUON BOLDIN was in the draft in 2003, he was available when miami's pick came up. EVERYBODY IN THE DRAFT ROOM said to take boldin that he was special and would be a big time nfl wr. EVERYONE told wanny that. BUT, like the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink.

wanny went against ALL the coaches and scouts and selected the immortal lb EDDIE MOORE who played 2 games for the finz and was injured and never made a comeback. boldin of course went on to be EXACTLY like the coaches and scouts told wanny he would be, an all pro wr.

this question has no real merit as there are to many variables to it, namely, hickey wasnt the gm and didnt make the picks.

by the end of year two under hickey, we will know what kind of decision maker he is.
 
The responsibility for all the Bucs players drafted has to go to the GM. However, after so many years experience in evaluating talent and making recommendations, it is fair to assume that Hickey understands what he is doing and is probably delighted to now be in a position to make the decisions rather than just the recommendations. It will be interesting to see if he has a natural inclination to do trade draft picks or not. Former Chiefs GM, King Carl Peterson, was notorious for very good (and tough) negotiating, and he helped coordinate the GM search for Stephen Ross, so it will be interesting to see if Hickey has an affinity for wheeling and dealing. I sense that Jeff Ireland became a better negotiator with more practice but he didn't rush to do many deals in his early years as GM.
 
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It's impossible to give Hickey any credit or blame based on what the Bucs actually did in past drafts.. The same is true on Lazor, and what Philly did on their O, as well as Philbin as the HC. All three are on their own, for better or worse.
 
Since this is Hickey's first draft as GM, I am hoping for a little beginners luck! We sure could use it. ;-)
 
Greer17 said:
Does anyone have any history regarding the past drafts of Hickey and Mark Dominik? I was curious to see if the "leaks" about their draft boards and preferences were pretty close or if he is known for throwing out a lot of smokescreens leading up to the draft. Also, was the media pretty accurate in their mock drafts for the Bucs in viewing their needs and players available? Thank you for any help!
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Just going by memory, seems like the bucs were always something of a wild card in the draft. I don't remember hearing any talk about them being especially interested in Barron or Doug martin a couple years ago. Maybe someone with a better memory will prove be wrong?

The revis/bucs rumors began long before the actual trade. Don't know which side leaked that, but I'll blame the jets.
 
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