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For all the people lobbying for us to draft an early-round QB, it probably isn't gonna happen. Saban's already handpicked his guy: Daunte Culpepper. Saban's fate is basically tied to Culpepper's play, which I'm sure Saban has realized. The investment he's made in CPep is too big to back out on now. And I'm not talking about money; I'm talking about time. When you're rebuilding a team, you can't keep addressing the same position over and over and over again. Yes, I know QB is the most important and deterministic position on the field, but every year spent re-addressing the QB position is another year where we don't address our OL, or our secondary, or our aging defense in general.

Isn't anyone else frustrated at how our OL is seemingly a revolving door every year, or how our secondary can never pack it in at the end of games when we really need a stop? Those are the areas that need to be addressed in a more pressing fashion. Culpepper will be the guy in 2007, and to that end, everyone should be supportive. If he fails, he fails, and Saban will probably be gone. But that's the investment that's been made, and you can't expect the organization to back out after seeing CPep on the field for 4 or 5 games this season (and not really healthy).
 
What you have just described, if true, gives me great pause about Nick. I don't think it's true, though. He gave Culpepper some money and gave up a 2nd round pick for him. If he isn't the guy, there is every reason NOT to go down with Culpepper because there is plenty of opportunity to cop to the mistake and correct it. I don't want a coach who is willing to die because he made an incorrect evaluation and is too proud or stupid to cop to it.
 
For all the people lobbying for us to draft an early-round QB, it probably isn't gonna happen. Saban's already handpicked his guy: Daunte Culpepper. Saban's fate is basically tied to Culpepper's play, which I'm sure Saban has realized. The investment he's made in CPep is too big to back out on now. And I'm not talking about money; I'm talking about time. When you're rebuilding a team, you can't keep addressing the same position over and over and over again. Yes, I know QB is the most important and deterministic position on the field, but every year spent re-addressing the QB position is another year where we don't address our OL, or our secondary, or our aging defense in general.

Isn't anyone else frustrated at how our OL is seemingly a revolving door every year, or how our secondary can never pack it in at the end of games when we really need a stop? Those are the areas that need to be addressed in a more pressing fashion. Culpepper will be the guy in 2007, and to that end, everyone should be supportive. If he fails, he fails, and Saban will probably be gone. But that's the investment that's been made, and you can't expect the organization to back out after seeing CPep on the field for 4 or 5 games this season (and not really healthy).

Good post/thread. And yes I'm tired of the revolving door on the OL but we MUST bring in some OL talent or we're doomed to repeat this season, no matter who is at QB.
 
What you have just described, if true, gives me great pause about Nick. I don't think it's true, though. He gave Culpepper some money and gave up a 2nd round pick for him. If he isn't the guy, there is every reason NOT to go down with Culpepper because there is plenty of opportunity to cop to the mistake and correct it. I don't want a coach who is willing to die because he made an incorrect evaluation and is too proud or stupid to cop to it.

I agree with what you're saying. But, I do think that it is way too early to call the Culpepper acquisition a bust, being that a healthy Daunte Culpepper hasn't played a down for the Dolphins yet. If he starts off next year like he did this year, then you suffer through next year with a washed-out Daunte or Lemon....and address the position next year. But, with that investment, at least let the guy get healthy and play before you jump ship.
 
good post, except im with JJ on this one, I dont think Saban will sink ship just because of one bad decision. He will quickly switch directions if he has to.
 
Culpepper More Vital to Dolphins Future than Saban

I'm with you on this one, MadDawg. Culpepper is the man. We need to jettison Joey (I like his attitude, but he's too costly as a backup -- cutting him clears about $2 million in cap room). Cleo shouldn't be costly as a backup, especially as a restricted free agent, but unless he shows real flashes of greatness this week I wouldn't break the bank on his tender, rather get a journeyman veteran who can be a caretaker if Pep goes down. Then, hope that Mueller can find some raw QB talent in the later rounds of the draft to develop. Doesn't cost much, so if it doesn't pan out and we find ourselves in this situation in the future, we can then take the high-round QB. I understand everyone wanting to recapture that Marino lighting-in-a-bottle draft, but this is not the year to take a QB in the first round with anything less than a top-5 pick. There will be deeper first-round QB drafts -- hopefully 5 years from now, after Pep has captained the Dolphins back to greatness and we're looking for a young gun to groom as his replacement. Let's all hope that we don't need to invest a high draft pick in a QB before then, because that would mean Pep failed and we're looking at a continuation of the current playoff draught (and frittering away the Taylor/Thomas years just like we did the Marino years on the other side of the ball). Culpepper is not just our best hope at this point -- he's really our only hope for a speedy turnaround.

All that said, I must admit that I was one of the voices calling for Brees over Culpepper. Not that I think Pep is a bust, I simply thought Pep's best game depended on his big arm and ability to go vertical. This was contingent during Daunte's Minnesota tenure on a few things:

(1) Pep's mobility (which it didn't take a genius to doubt after such a HUGE knee injury);

(2) Minnesota's great offensive line (bad enough Pep would be less mobile, but a sitting duck between lack of mobility and our line, which we knew was spotty last year and did next to nothing to improve in the offseason);

(3) Wide receiver separation -- Daunte has a huge arm, throws a pretty ball, but isn't laser precise. He relied on Moss' speed and vertical leap, as well as the Vikings team speed at receiver to get separation. But, more importantly, he relied on the separation provided by playing most of his games on turf. It is no coincidence that some of the biggest single seasons posted by QBs not named Marino came on turf -- Warner, Culpepper, Manning -- ever notice how often Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne just look wide open in home games? They are good, don't get me wrong, but turf favors receivers and allows for greater separation.

All of these factors combined allowed Viking Daunte to take long drops, scan downfield, allow plays to develop (both because of good protection and mobility), and then hit big plays downfield without high risk of interception because of the separation (in Culpepper's MVP-caliber 2004 year, his biggest strength was great TD to INT ratio -- 39 TDs to 11 INTs).

Now, we knew going into the Pep decision (and the Dolphins staff should have known -- they are professionals, after all) that none of the key three factors outlined above would be present in Miami. Namely, we knew DC's mobility would be diminished; we knew our protection was flawed; and we knew our receivers wouldn't get that kind of separation (during Chambers pro-bowl year, he was great at snatching balls away from and over DBs but rarely got real separation -- which makes me wonder what happened to his hands this year, why the drops when great hands is what made him an all-pro in '05?). But then somehow we were surprised at Pep's sacks this year. The coaching staff and the pundits said he was holding the ball too long. Well, no longer than he did at Minny -- but at Minny, he was used to holding the ball behind good blocking, and buying extra time with his wheels. Stands to reason it would take him a while to get used to getting rid of the ball more quickly, and developing pocket presence rather than relying so much on mobility. All of this would take time to develop -- but he was thrust into the fire too soon, and lets hope all of those sacks didn't damage his psyche as much as it set back his physical timetable.

Brees would have been more likely to work out in our system -- at San Diego he didn't have a great WR corps and was used to working the short game to tight ends and backs, he played in similar conditions, he was always a guy with a level-head, pocket presence and good release. I know the medical concern was his shoulder and that he doesn't physically amaze folks like Daunte, but in a way his physical limitations (and the fact that he uses the dink-and-dunk precision short game to set up the long ball, whereas Daunte does the opposite) would have made him a better fit for the Dolphins. However, I don't know what was said medically behind closed doors, and can't blame the staff for deferring to doctors. All I can say is that on paper (even throwing out 20-20 hindsight after Brees' MVP-like year with the Saints), it seems pretty obvious that Brees was a better fit and more likely to produce wins, if not huge stats, than Culpepper.

That's behind us now. But we can learn from our mistakes. Culpepper has the mind and the vision to become the kind of field general that will work in our program, he just needs a good offensive coordinator and quarterback coach to help him make that transition. It will take some work on his timing, improvement in protection (which is why OL should be a priority in the draft, not QB), hopefully some improvement in his mobility with more time to heal, and a creative, inventive playcalling scheme that will help create some of the separation from which Daunte benefited on turf (see, e.g., the Patriots scheme from '01 through '05 and the Jets scheme this year that has allowed weak-armed Pennington to perform serviceably thanks to separation). Here is what we SHOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT DO: repeat our past mistakes by going after a strong-armed raw physical QB talent in the first or second round, just to stick him behind below-average protection with an average (or at least underachieving at best) receiving corps and average running game. Let's face it folks -- Phil Rivers or Jay Cutler wouldn't look very good here, without the kind of great protection and running game that the Chargers and Broncos give them respectively. You can't just plug in big talent and expect it to work -- you need to either (1) pick talent that already fits your program, (2) groom your talent to fit your program, or (3) make your program fit the talent. We don't have time for #3, to build around a first-round wunderkind talent (or even build something that would best serve Daunte's huge talent) -- our defense needs the offense to perform now. We missed out on our best chance for #1, by picking talent that would fit what we had in place (Brees was near perfect -- nothing out there in free agency for '07 quite fits, with Garcia being maybe best option but requiring major overhaul of our offense, and with a draft pick taking too long to develop). That leaves us with #2 -- grooming our talented QB, Daunte, to fit the personnel strengths and weaknesses we already have in place, and trying to improve on the OL and receiving corps as much as possible through the draft and sensible, forward-thinking free-agency moves. One of the great things about this option is that it would allow us to "fix" the offense with the least possible moves -- a total of 3-4 draft picks/free agent moves on offense (2 strong OL, one receiver, and either resign Barnes or bring in another FB). Then we could still invest in keeping our aging defensive front strong, and hope to find the cover corner we need. By working with Daunte rather than going after a young gun QB in the draft, we can focus on both sides of the ball in the draft rather than using everything on offense.

We need to throw our support behind Daunte Culpepper, Dolphins fans, and hope that he turns it around next year -- the alternative is a minimum of 2-5 more years of playoff draught. Forget the worries about Saban going to 'Bama -- we could survive another wholesale coaching change better than we could survive the failure of Project Daunte.
 
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I'm with you on this one, MadDawg. Culpepper is the man. We need to jettison Joey (I like his attitude, but he's too costly as a backup -- cutting him clears about $2 million in cap room). Cleo shouldn't be costly as a backup, especially as a restricted free agent, but unless he shows real flashes of greatness this week I wouldn't break the bank on his tender, rather get a journeyman veteran who can be a caretaker if Pep goes down. Then, hope that Mueller can find some raw QB talent in the later rounds of the draft to develop. Doesn't cost much, so if it doesn't pan out and we find ourselves in this situation in the future, we can then take the high-round QB. I understand everyone wanting to recapture that Marino lighting-in-a-bottle draft, but this is not the year to take a QB in the first round with anything less than a top-5 pick. There will be deeper first-round QB drafts -- hopefully 5 years from now, after Pep has captained the Dolphins back to greatness and we're looking for a young gun to groom as his replacement. Let's all hope that we don't need to invest a high draft pick in a QB before then, because that would mean Pep failed and we're looking at a continuation of the current playoff draught (and frittering away the Taylor/Thomas years just like we did the Marino years on the other side of the ball). Culpepper is not just our best hope at this point -- he's really our only hope for a speedy turnaround.

All that said, I must admit that I was one of the voices calling for Brees over Culpepper. Not that I think Pep is a bust, I simply thought Pep's best game depended on his big arm and ability to go vertical. This was contingent during Daunte's Minnesota tenure on a few things:

(1) Pep's mobility (which it didn't take a genius to doubt after such a HUGE knee injury);

(2) Minnesota's great offensive line (bad enough Pep would be less mobile, but a sitting duck between lack of mobility and our line, which we knew was spotty last year and did next to nothing to improve in the offseason);

(3) Wide receiver separation -- Daunte has a huge arm, throws a pretty ball, but isn't laser precise. He relied on Moss' speed and vertical leap, as well as the Vikings team speed at receiver to get separation. But, more importantly, he relied on the separation provided by playing most of his games on turf. It is no coincidence that some of the biggest single seasons posted by QBs not named Marino came on turf -- Warner, Culpepper, Manning -- ever notice how often Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne just look wide open in home games? They are good, don't get me wrong, but turf favors receivers and allows for greater separation.

All of these factors combined allowed Viking Daunte to take long drops, scan downfield, allow plays to develop (both because of good protection and mobility), and then hit big plays downfield without high risk of interception because of the separation (in Culpepper's MVP-caliber 2004 year, his biggest strength was great TD to INT ratio -- 39 TDs to 11 INTs).

Now, we knew going into the Pep decision (and the Dolphins staff should have known -- they are professionals, after all) that none of the key three factors outlined above would be present in Miami. Namely, we knew DC's mobility would be diminished; we knew our protection was flawed; and we knew our receivers wouldn't get that kind of separation (during Chambers pro-bowl year, he was great at snatching balls away from and over DBs but rarely got real separation -- which makes me wonder what happened to his hands this year, why the drops when great hands is what made him an all-pro in '05?). But then somehow we were surprised at Pep's sacks this year. The coaching staff and the pundits said he was holding the ball too long. Well, no longer than he did at Minny -- but at Minny, he was used to holding the ball behind good blocking, and buying extra time with his wheels. Stands to reason it would take him a while to get used to getting rid of the ball more quickly, and developing pocket presence rather than relying so much on mobility. All of this would take time to develop -- but he was thrust into the fire too soon, and lets hope all of those sacks didn't damage his psyche as much as it set back his physical timetable.

Brees would have been more likely to work out in our system -- at San Diego he didn't have a great WR corps and was used to working the short game to tight ends and backs, he played in similar conditions, he was always a guy with a level-head, pocket presence and good release. I know the medical concern was his shoulder and that he doesn't physically amaze folks like Daunte, but in a way his physical limitations (and the fact that he uses the dink-and-dunk precision short game to set up the long ball, whereas Daunte does the opposite) would have made him a better fit for the Dolphins. However, I don't know what was said medically behind closed doors, and can't blame the staff for deferring to doctors. All I can say is that on paper (even throwing out 20-20 hindsight after Brees' MVP-like year with the Saints), it seems pretty obvious that Brees was a better fit and more likely to produce wins, if not huge stats, than Culpepper.

That's behind us now. But we can learn from our mistakes. Culpepper has the mind and the vision to become the kind of field general that will work in our program, he just needs a good offensive coordinator and quarterback coach to help him make that transition. It will take some work on his timing, improvement in protection (which is why OL should be a priority in the draft, not QB), hopefully some improvement in his mobility with more time to heal, and a creative, inventive playcalling scheme that will help create some of the separation from which Daunte benefited on turf (see, e.g., the Patriots scheme from '01 through '05 and the Jets scheme this year that has allowed weak-armed Pennington to perform serviceably thanks to separation). Here is what we SHOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT DO: repeat our past mistakes by going after a strong-armed raw physical QB talent in the first or second round, just to stick him behind below-average protection with an average (or at least underachieving at best) receiving corps and average running game. Let's face it folks -- Phil Rivers or Jay Cutler wouldn't look very good here, without the kind of great protection and running game that the Chargers and Broncos give them respectively. You can't just plug in big talent and expect it to work -- you need to either (1) pick talent that already fits your program, (2) groom your talent to fit your program, or (3) make your program fit the talent. We don't have time for #3, to build around a first-round wunderkind talent (or even build something that would best serve Daunte's huge talent) -- our defense needs the offense to perform now. We missed out on our best chance for #1, by picking talent that would fit what we had in place (Brees was near perfect -- nothing out there in free agency for '07 quite fits, with Garcia being maybe best option but requiring major overhaul of our offense, and with a draft pick taking too long to develop). That leaves us with #2 -- grooming our talented QB, Daunte, to fit the personnel strengths and weaknesses we already have in place, and trying to improve on the OL and receiving corps as much as possible through the draft and sensible, forward-thinking free-agency moves. One of the great things about this option is that it would allow us to "fix" the offense with the least possible moves -- a total of 3-4 draft picks/free agent moves on offense (2 strong OL, one receiver, and either resign Barnes or bring in another FB). Then we could still invest in keeping our aging defensive front strong, and hope to find the cover corner we need. By working with Daunte rather than going after a young gun QB in the draft, we can focus on both sides of the ball in the draft rather than using everything on offense.

We need to throw our support behind Daunte Culpepper, Dolphins fans, and hope that he turns it around next year -- the alternative is a minimum of 2-5 more years of playoff draught. Forget the worries about Saban going to 'Bama -- we could survive another wholesale coaching change better than we could survive the failure of Project Daunte.
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Excellent post VandyLaw. I think the bottom line is you have to have a good QB if you are going to compete and make the playoffs, especially in the AFC. The Ravens and Bears have gotten to the playoffs primarily on their defenses, but I think if we are going to be able to compete with the Patriots, Colts, Chargers, etc., we can't just say stick with DC or nobody. DC may never return to the form he once was, and to keep him here just because we invested a lot of time and money in him is wrong. Sometimes you have to admit you made a mistake and cut your losses..... just like when you have to divorce the lady who you thought was "The One." :rolleyes:
 
Excellent post VandyLaw. I think the bottom line is you have to have a good QB if you are going to compete and make the playoffs, especially in the AFC. The Ravens and Bears have gotten to the playoffs primarily on their defenses, but I think if we are going to be able to compete with the Patriots, Colts, Chargers, etc., we can't just say stick with DC or nobody. DC may never return to the form he once was, and to keep him here just because we invested a lot of time and money in him is wrong. Sometimes you have to admit you made a mistake and cut your losses..... just like when you have to divorce the lady who you thought was "The One." :rolleyes:

Fair point, Roman. However, sometimes the hardest part is figuring out WHICH MISTAKE to admit to and which losses to cut. Was the Dolphins' mistake in taking Culpepper because he's spent, shot, done, physically unable to perform? I believe the real mistake was inserting Culpepper into a system, personnel package and even a stadium that didn't fit his strengths, and then expecting him to be the Daunte of 2004. Let's admit our mistakes right now -- we failed to do enough to improve protection; we failed to work with Daunte on developing the quicker release he would need to flourish here; we failed to install an offensive system that would create artificial separation where team speed wasn't enough; we failed to tailor our passing offense to the weakness of our offensive line by emphasizing quick decisions; too often Daunte was sacked while going through "check down" progressions, when because of his lack of mobility and our line troubles we should have been calling plays designed to go short and fast with the potential for a homerun shot through "checking up" progressions in the event the protection was there.

Here's the rub -- in a way, it would be easier for the coaching staff to admit to the broadly perceived mistake, that Daunte is broken. Sure, it would be admitting to a bad personnel call, but you can blame it in part on doctors and who could blame Nick for rolling the dice on a physical talent like Daunte that just didn't work out? Admitting the real mistake, on the other hand (the poor player coaching, offensive design and play calling outlined above) would be to admit that the staff failed in something much more fundamental, things that are at the very heart of coaching. It would be admitting "we think we can win with great talent, but we can't devise a scheme to win with the average talent at our disposal" (like say Belichick or Mangenius). In other words, it would mean admitting that they were OUTCOACHED. We'll see how courageous Saban is -- blame his player's physical condition, or own up to the COACHING mistakes that were made. Even these he could blame largely on Mularkey, fire him and cut his losses (and don't give me anymore talk about continuity at offensive coordinator -- sure, it's nice, it would be the preferred way to go, but look at all the teams that had staff turnover and are better offensively this year even without large personnel improvements -- see, e.g., Jets, Bills).
 
It seems the team has been through a few Offensive Coordinators these past four years. That means a new offensive playbook - and offensive playbooks are built around QBs and team talent.

The team needs stability on offense. Even if it means going with Harrington / Culpepper duo.

Harrington did good in a 4-game stretch (including against Chicago and Detroit) but then, against the Jaguars, Bills, and Jets, it seemed the defenses knew exactly what he was going to do, leaving him very few choices. And that is not necessarily his fault - but the fault of the offensive coordinator assembling a game plan (not having creative options).

I repeat ... the team needs stability on offense.

Just a thought or two - in my opinion.
 
The team needs stability on offense.

Agreed. However, as you know, one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. I think we need to establish continuity of personnel, but it has to be the right personnel -- we need to upgrade the OL (which can be done by adding a stud anchor LT and one other person, then rotating the best 3 current linemen to their best possible spots). I could maybe live with our WRs, but would like to add some reliable speed if possible. I'm satisfied with our RB outlook (assuming we lock up Barnes at FB, I believe I read he's a free agent, if so we need to get a good one). The big question is QB. Stability would mean bringing Daunte back (we can't seriously talk about bringing Joey back -- QB rating is, well, overrated, but at some point over a career you are what your record and QB rating say you are -- Harrington has shown nothing to say he can ever be more than a serviceable back up, and we free up $2 mil in cap room by letting him take his leave).

Now, I know all about the problems with almost annual upheaval at offensive coordinator, but let's face it, Mularkey didn't get the job done this year, didn't even seem to try to tailor his offense to the talent in place, and a NEW OFFENSIVE COACHING STAFF HAS ALREADY OUTPERFORMED HIM IN BUFFALO -- guess lack of stability wasn't a problem there? I'm all for bringing on a guy to be THE GUY and having patience with him -- let's face it, Mularkey's not that guy for this team. We already know it, why prolong the agony?
 
Vandy, I just wanted to say welcome to the board. You sound like a VERY knowledgeable poster and that's always a good thing around here.


A lot of my family (on my mom's side) lives in Melbourne. Just thought that was kinda cool.
 
Nice posts Vandy. I agree that OL is our priority with a difference maker receiver a close second but as to everything there are exceptions. I am all for drafting a LOT and Center but if Brian Brohm is available I think we have to draft him. He's tailor made for our offense. The other aspect is where we draft. If we finish with the 10th pick we're too low to draft Thomas and probably too high to draft Brown (unless we can work out a trade down). I would try to draft Staley in the 2nd and Khalil in the 3rd although I'm not sure where they're slated to go until after the combine. Brohm is the only QB I would take with the first. If he's not available I would target Kolb in the 4th or WR Gonzalez from Ohio State if Kolb is gone. I think offseason strategies must be determined by what's available and not necessarily what your greatest needs are for long term success. If Brohm is gone I think we target McCauley from Fresno or Pat Willis with our first since we still have work on defense
 
For all the people lobbying for us to draft an early-round QB, it probably isn't gonna happen. Saban's already handpicked his guy: Daunte Culpepper. Saban's fate is basically tied to Culpepper's play, which I'm sure Saban has realized. The investment he's made in CPep is too big to back out on now. And I'm not talking about money; I'm talking about time. When you're rebuilding a team, you can't keep addressing the same position over and over and over again. Yes, I know QB is the most important and deterministic position on the field, but every year spent re-addressing the QB position is another year where we don't address our OL, or our secondary, or our aging defense in general.

Isn't anyone else frustrated at how our OL is seemingly a revolving door every year, or how our secondary can never pack it in at the end of games when we really need a stop? Those are the areas that need to be addressed in a more pressing fashion. Culpepper will be the guy in 2007, and to that end, everyone should be supportive. If he fails, he fails, and Saban will probably be gone. But that's the investment that's been made, and you can't expect the organization to back out after seeing CPep on the field for 4 or 5 games this season (and not really healthy).


To me, there is no open and shut case to Saban. If Saban sees value in cutting his losses with Culpepper (highly unlikely next season unless something bad happens injury wise), he will. Saban will draft the guy he feels best fits this team and his value in talent. Which scares me cus I want a stud Oline bad and like every coach thats been here since shula, they do not draft Oline with any conviction. Nick Mangold was the bomb IMO.
 
Agreed. However, as you know, one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. I think we need to establish continuity of personnel, but it has to be the right personnel -- we need to upgrade the OL (which can be done by adding a stud anchor LT and one other person, then rotating the best 3 current linemen to their best possible spots). I could maybe live with our WRs, but would like to add some reliable speed if possible. I'm satisfied with our RB outlook (assuming we lock up Barnes at FB, I believe I read he's a free agent, if so we need to get a good one). The big question is QB. Stability would mean bringing Daunte back (we can't seriously talk about bringing Joey back -- QB rating is, well, overrated, but at some point over a career you are what your record and QB rating say you are -- Harrington has shown nothing to say he can ever be more than a serviceable back up, and we free up $2 mil in cap room by letting him take his leave).

Now, I know all about the problems with almost annual upheaval at offensive coordinator, but let's face it, Mularkey didn't get the job done this year, didn't even seem to try to tailor his offense to the talent in place, and a NEW OFFENSIVE COACHING STAFF HAS ALREADY OUTPERFORMED HIM IN BUFFALO -- guess lack of stability wasn't a problem there? I'm all for bringing on a guy to be THE GUY and having patience with him -- let's face it, Mularkey's not that guy for this team. We already know it, why prolong the agony?


PRIORITY NUMBER ONE. Get Rid of Mularky. Any guy who has a running back who is getting 6+ yard per carry and then he passes the ball consecutively when RB was dominating the Jets, has certainly no clue how to run an offense. Just get rid of him and we are already better IMO.
 
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