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LordCaldlow

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Just want some opinions on chad, do you think if he had a true number 1 wideout would have silly number like brady did or peyton does every year. I mean yes his numbers are perfect right now but do they get a lot better because of a true wideout or do you think Chad stays about the same. In my opinion i think he would benifit from a big physical wideout with great skills, at least it would keep the D honest and make them double cover the guy and open up our other recievers even more so then they already are. Penny for MVP!
 
A great WR would make any QB better. This is obvious.

However, Chad is doing more than fine with the talented receivers we do have.
 
I don't think Penny will ever get the crazy numbers that Manning or Brady have gotten, regardless of who he is throwing to. He isn't a gun-slinger, thats what you need for crazy big numbers, but we don't need crazy big stats, we need one stat, Wins. And Chad can give us that, he already has. Another great receiver would help, sure
 
I don't think Penny will ever get the crazy numbers that Manning or Brady have gotten, regardless of who he is throwing to. He isn't a gun-slinger, thats what you need for crazy big numbers, but we don't need crazy big stats, we need one stat, Wins. And Chad can give us that, he already has. Another great receiver would help, sure

Without the strong arm and gunslinger mentality he just wouldn't be able to put up ridiculous numbers like Brady did last year. Brady can make any throw while Pennington can't which is what forces Pennington to be so smart with his decisions.
 
We need a big tall receiver with nice hands and speed. I like a WR from Cal-Poly named Ramses Barden....he plays at a small school but he looks alot like Antonio Gates size wise. Barden will be in the East-West all star game in January and is projected to go in the 3rd-4th round:
http://www.nfldraftdog.com/Small School Football/ramses_barden.htm

I love Ginn and Bess but it would be nice having a tall wide receiver that Chad could lob end zone fade passes to.
 
I think that the thing that is going to benefit Chad the most is a full traing camp, to work on his timing with all of our recievers. I actually like our depth at the Wr position going into next season
 
A star wideout would certainly help, but the impact wouldn't be huge. Chad's style is short, safe passes, spread around to many players. He'll never be a mad bomber.
 
Yea it obviously would help if we got another WR that was a potential #1 WR . . . lol, that would help any QB. I mean we could get Anquan Boldin right now . . . if we give up 2 #1's . . . we have to be smart, getting a WR isn't as important as the team developing the lines and working on the LB's and secondary, and we can only do that thru the draft. If we hit this draft out the park . . . then the following year we can maybe go after that stud WR, but we have to maintain with what we have. Hell by then, maybe Ginn has become elite, u never know.
 
Are you nostradomus? How do you know we don't have a no.1 WR in the making? This is Ginn's second season and he has been progressing and has shown his talent. He obviously still has yet to put it all together, but as you look at rookie WRs, even the more polished rookie WRs take three years before they take off and have a 1,000 yard season and really start to develop to the top guy. Marvin Harrison took 4 years before he really developed, Roddy White took 3 years before he really started to get going and look at him now.

I'm not saying Ginn will be Harrison or White, but most scouts knew that Ginn was more raw and not as polished as other rookie wRs, as he was converted to WR ast Ohio State and didn't start football as a WR and they didn't have him do much routes but just go routes and he was effective with just that. Just coming in the NFL was him learning more routes, whereas, other rookie WRs, like I said are more polished and rookie WRs in the past who were more polished as I have said have taken 3 yrs. So considering this, I took is doing not to bad with his progression considering all this.

Miami is also more of a grind it out team and not a gun slinging team as far as offensive style, so it's not a type where there are going to be huge passing numbers, but an efficient chain moving offense.
 
Chad needs a #1 receiver that can run routes. Alot of his success is with the timing of the throw. We shall see with Ginn. I wouldn't mind Coles coming in at the right price, they are already familiar with each other.
 
One other thing. Sometimes this star WR gets out of hand. Sometimes substance is more important than style or the flashy guys. Look at the Cowboys star WRs and talented WRs and their implosion. Look at the Saints dynamic offense and them sitting at home out of the playoffs. We have a gritty, tough, resillient, young WR group that are clutch and don't drop passes. I believe there was a statistic that I saw which Miami is among the top five in the league with fewest dropped passes with it's WRs. How many times have Miami had a lot of dropped passes? I like the WRs group as they come to play when the time comes. As far as style goes, I know Miami dolphins are not the 90's Giants,as that is a super bowl team. But think back to Phil Simms and those Giants.

Did they have a star studded WR groups or that were highly known. Did they have an Andre Reed, a Tim Brown, Cris Carter, Jerry Rice, Micheal Irvin, or such names or explosiveness? No, these Wrs were not really known, but guess what? That super bowl witht the Giants agains the Bills, the Bills had the star Wrs or flashy Wrs, while the Giants were the gritty Wrs and offense. The Giants grinded out yards and had long pass plays to milk the clock and keep the Bills offense off the fields and had long TD drives and guess which team won? I know Tom Brady is a great qb, but look at the PAtrios Wrs, before Moss and Welker.

Troy Brown, David Patten, that Givens guy. They didn't light up the stats, these Wrs, but they didn't drop passes and they caught passes in clutch times. And then look at the Colts star studded Wrs of Manning breaking the Marino TD record at the time and Harrison, Wayne and Stokely having all 1,000 yard seasons I believe. They are flashy and put up the stats, but guess what happened when they played the pats? The star studded Wr corps lost whilte the gritty, clutch, foot ball winning WRs corps and the PAtriots beat the Colts and won the superbowl.
 
Chad needs a #1 receiver that can run routes. Alot of his success is with the timing of the throw. We shall see with Ginn. I wouldn't mind Coles coming in at the right price, they are already familiar with each other.

That's what I was thinking. Coles had a really big game. If we added him we could definately keep the chains moving. We'd probably be a win or two better this year.
 
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