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Quinn at 9? Nahhhh he won't be there . . . What about Jamarcus?

Kdawg954

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I'm really starting to slowly believe that we may have a better shot at Russell than Quinn. Quinn is a polished QB that a team in need of a QB will grab w/ quickness. He was considered possibly the number 1 QB if he would have came out last year . . . and still is the best QB of this draft (tho I LOVE Russell's upside).

My Question is, if Russell were to slip to 9, should Miami grab him? At first I thought that was an impossible thought, but hmmmmm let's see.

1. Oakland - Calvin Johnson (they sign David Carr)
2. Detroit - Brady Quinn (they want a guy to make all the throws and reads in MArtz's system, he is an ideal fit)
3. Cleveland - Adrian Peterson (he is not sliding, too good to pass up)
4. Tampa - Gaines Adams (CJ dreams crushed, they take the best DE prospect)
5. Arizona - Joe Thomas (a dream come true)
6. Washington - Jamal Anderson (They need a DE, this guy possibly has the most upside at DE)
7. Minnesota - Laron Landry (They drafted Jackson last year in round 2, they are not going to draft another QB this early, take BPA)
8. Atlanta - Reggie Nelson (they wanted Landry, but decide to keep Nelson in the south, they need a Safety.)

If the draft unfolds like this . . . do we take Jamarcus Russell w/ the 9th pick?
 
Kdawg954 said:
I'm really starting to slowly believe that we may have a better shot at Russell than Quinn. Quinn is a polished QB that a team in need of a QB will grab w/ quickness. He was considered possibly the number 1 QB if he would have came out last year . . . and still is the best QB of this draft (tho I LOVE Russell's upside).

My Question is, if Russell were to slip to 9, should Miami grab him? At first I thought that was an impossible thought, but hmmmmm let's see.

1. Oakland - Calvin Johnson (they sign David Carr)
2. Detroit - Brady Quinn (they want a guy to make all the throws and reads in MArtz's system, he is an ideal fit)
3. Cleveland - Adrian Peterson (he is not sliding, too good to pass up)
4. Tampa - Gaines Adams (CJ dreams crushed, they take the best DE prospect)
5. Arizona - Joe Thomas (a dream come true)
6. Washington - Jamal Anderson (They need a DE, this guy possibly has the most upside at DE)
7. Minnesota - Laron Landry (They drafted Jackson last year in round 2, they are not going to draft another QB this early, take BPA)
8. Atlanta - Reggie Nelson (they wanted Landry, but decide to keep Nelson in the south, they need a Safety.)

If the draft unfolds like this . . . do we take Jamarcus Russell w/ the 9th pick?
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Please God, no! I want nothing to do with him. First, he is MAJORLY overhyped (which assures he WON'T get past Oakland, since Al Davis always falls for hype), and second he is said to be very lazy, and I want someone with an excellent work ethic that continues to try and get better. If he is lazy in college what happens once he signs the big contract that college is basically an audition for?

Also, I don't think he is the most accurate QB, and while he DOES have a huge arm, he has piss-poor mechanics. Watch his tapes, he always throws while moving backwards and throws with a hop or from the backs of his feet.

If Quinn isn't there for us then we better go Landry or trade down, since nobody else is #9 value. But PLEASE don't let us take Russell, let him be someone else's big money problem.
 
In that scenario, I think you do (draft him). Some people might hate that pick, but I think it is probably the smart thing to do. Russell is atop many boards not simply because people think the Raiders like to smoke crack. He has an absolutely incredible arm, is big and hard to tackle, has great mobility for a guy his size, and can create on broken plays. He needs to be a little more polished, but I think he is a bargain at #9 (in this draft).

The other possibility is that a team may see him slipping and want to jump up to grab him. I still say that trading down should be our first priority. If we can grab at least one extra first day pick, we should consider any offer.
 
I keep seeing people say they "heard" he was lazy when everything says he isn't. I'd like to know who said that. Russell at #9 would be almost unbelievable and if you're deluded enough to think Miami would pass him over then more power to you.
 
bakedmatt said:
Would Russell fit in our offense?
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What offense? Poor O-line, crap receivers, no TE to speak of, and a run game limited by the poor play of the other positions. Of course you draft Russell at nine even though you'll sooner hit Powerball than see that happen. He does have the upside that it would be a great value at nine despite any concerns mentioned.
 
:( i prefer to trade our 9 for someone that wants a QB
 
Russell won't slide past the Browns unless they Oakland and Detroit pass on a QB and the Browns choose to pass on the QB Savage likes more.
 
Cam Cameran has a history with pocket passing QB's. Russell is Culpepper version 2.

I think if Quinn isn't there, we will go after Stanton, Beck, or Kolb in the other rounds.
 
Nooooooooo! Please no Russell! This guy looks like he has bust written all over him. When I have watched him play, he didn't look like he could read a defense at all. We don't have any 80 yard pass plays in our playbook so I really don't know what we would get by drafting him. I hope we get Levi Brown at 9 or trade down.
 
Honestly, I thinkin he's on grandapa's old cough medicine. Jamacus won't go past the top 3. Oak will take him, but if they get rid of Moss, then that might make him fall out of the top 3 to the top 5. Either way he will be gone by when we pick.
 
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