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Ramsey Trade Becoming Problematic?

Ramsey have played his hand and he will lose if the Dolphins play hardball with him, he needs to report to camp until he is traded, what happens if he gets injured in a home accident? the fins liability payments to will decrease because he is paid to play games not just to be in the building, he and McDaniels need to mend whatever problem they have so he can lock down one side of our defense, the most money he will get is with the Dolphins, somebody please enlighten me.
 
Partly true. The military doesn’t have to let the recruit out. They will typically do it because who wants a quitter and whiner, but it’s not an easy or common thing, much less assured. And if they are allowed to leave they can get an other than honorable discharge.

"Other than honorable discharge" sounds about right for Ramsey. - LOL
 
Ramsey have played his hand and he will lose if the Dolphins play hardball with him, he needs to report to camp until he is traded, what happens if he gets injured in a home accident? the fins liability payments to will decrease because he is paid to play games not just to be in the building, he and McDaniels need to mend whatever problem they have so he can lock down one side of our defense, the most money he will get is with the Dolphins, somebody please enlighten me.
Bye, bye Ramsey.
Sounds good to me. - LOL
 
First of all, it's not a question of "refusing to play and demanding a trade." Both parties are mutually seeking a trade. Miami wants to trade him as much as he wants to be traded. Second - if it was the case that Miami wanted to retain a player who was "refusing to play" (which, again, they don't) - as has been said, Ramsey could claim injury and get paid regardless. He has done this before. Teams can file a grievance in such a case, but have virtually no recourse, as injury/illness is difficult to disprove by existing protocols. It's almost assured that if Ramsey remained on the roster, the team would be on the hook for his salary.

Which is undoubtedly a main factor in wanting to trade him. There's no upside whatsoever in keeping him on the roster just to send a message. All you'd be doing is wasting a roster spot and millions of dollars. At least a trade gets you something, even if it's just a late round pick and a little bit of cap relief. Something is still better than nothing, which is what you'd get by retaining him against his will. Less than nothing in fact, since you're actively shooting yourself in the foot by holding him hostage.

As for the premise of this post - I haven't been here long, but I gather that the OP is widely regarded as somewhat of a troll, so I won't give it too much credence. But I will say that I don't think holding off on a trade is problematic. There's no rush to trade him, since draft picks are useless until May 2026. There are no doubt offers on the table for Ramsey, but Grier apparently just thinks he can do better by waiting to see if training camp creates a bigger need for a team at CB. Is this somewhat of a gamble? Probably. Should we take whatever is the best offer on the table right now just to finally rid ourselves of this headache? In my opinion, yes. But I also don't pretend to be smarter than the guys calling the shots, and they obviously have a lot more information than any of us do. So whatever. I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. Worst case, we wind up making a trade in August that's more or less the same as what we could have gotten now, after nobody softens to give us a better deal. Oh well. No harm done.
Bingo!
 
I don't know this, so how do you? He said he did not want to play here. Maybe a novel solution, ask him to take a pay cut with a substantial signing bonus. We are going to have to pay some of it anyway might as well go ahead and do it. When he refuses, if he refuses, suspend him without pay. The players union will scream bloody murder but you have a grievance. He wants out of Miami, we want to accommodate, if he won't play let him sit. Conduct detrimental to the team. Fight it out in court. Probably would not work but might force the issue to a resolution.
I think that would result is Ramseys never playing in the NFL again - who would want to hire such a publicly Ide'd phony.
 
No it isn't. Much like 'Grier asked Ramsey to take a pay cut,' 'Ramsey and McDaniel had issues' has never been credibly reported by one single person. There is literally not one single shred of evidence to suggest that's true. It's all rumor and innuendo that does not, in any way shape or form, originate from a credible source.
There’s no credible evidence of your theory as well. I wasn’t asking for your opinion of what happened, I was asking if the Dolphins could recoup any money from this fiasco.
 
I believe he's referring to Grier asking JR to take a pay cut.

I've never heard that was the case.
That's not my theory though. It's just a theory. A theory about which I already said this:
It hasn't been credibly reported by anyone.
I never said I believed it, just that it sounded believable. In fact, since that story originated from notorious hacky piece of **** Armando Salguero, I'm far less inclined to believe it.

I said it before and I'll say it again: We don't know what caused the split between Miami and Ramsey.
 
Just keep him on the roster and make him inactive every week. Nobody is trading for him, and we shouldn’t give him what he wants by cutting him so that he’s free to sign with whoever he wants.

Send a message. He sits all season.
 
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