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Rank The running backs that started when Marino was our QB
(watch out, this is basically a list of who's-who among the all time great RB's in NFL history)

83 A.Franklin 2nd rd pick
84 W.Bennet (unknown)
85 T.Nathan 3rd rd
86 L.Hampton 1st rd
87 T.Stradford 4th rd
88 Hampton (again)
89-90 S.Smith 1st rd 9th overall
91-93 M.Higgs 8th rd
94-95 B.Parmelee undrafted
96-98 K.Abdul Jabbar 3rd rd
99 James Johnson 2nd rd
 
jonnyh said:
Rank The running backs that started when Marino was our QB
(watch out, this is basically a list of who's-who among the all time great RB's in NFL history)

83 A.Franklin 2nd rd pick
84 W.Bennet (unknown)
85 T.Nathan 3rd rd
86 L.Hampton 1st rd
87 T.Stradford 4th rd
88 Hampton (again)
89-90 S.Smith 1st rd 9th overall
91-93 M.Higgs 8th rd
94-95 B.Parmelee undrafted
96-98 K.Abdul Jabbar 3rd rd
99 James Johnson 2nd rd
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File this list under "big reason Dan never won a SB"

My rankings below. 2 of the top 3 best had career cut short.

83 A.Franklin 2nd rd pick --> ROY, blew out knee in 84.
85 T.Nathan 3rd rd
83 D. Overstreet, 1st rd pick --> died, car accident in 84
94-95 B.Parmelee undrafted
86 L.Hampton 1st rd
91-93 M.Higgs 8th rd
96-98 K.Abdul Jabbar 3rd rd
87 T.Stradford 4th rd
84 W.Bennet (unknown)
89-90 S.Smith 1st rd 9th overall99 James Johnson 2nd rd
 
from what ive seen i would have to say KAJ but i didnt get to see dan in the 80's. but isnt he the only 1000 yard rusher he ever had too?
 
Marino420TD said:
File this list under "big reason Dan never won a SB"

Heartbreaking as this may be, our lack of a balanced team was the reason, in my opinion, that Marino never won a SB....And Ill explain. Last year the two worst running teams made the SB, but their Defense was almost flawless....Big Ben and Warner? Yes, they are good, but nobody is expecting them to be the sole reasons for their teams success, the way Marinos team was.....It was all on his shoulders, and most of the time, he won.....But at times, some teams seemed to be expecting each and every play we threw at them, for there was little surprise on the playbook....All there was, was probably the best Quarterback to never win the big one, and our favorite player ALL TIME....
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MDFinFan06 said:
from what ive seen i would have to say KAJ but i didnt get to see dan in the 80's. but isnt he the only 1000 yard rusher he ever had too?
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yeah first in ages, but it should have an asterisk since he needed about 2000 carries to get it.
 
John Biello said:
yeah first in ages, but it should have an asterisk since he needed about 2000 carries to get it.
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I dont think so. We had a horrible run blocking unit at that time, None of of our current runningbacks would probably have had a much better average with the blocking that was there. Look at how Ricky's average dropped in 2003 when the lineplay completely fell apart and Ricky is probably the most talented runningback to ever don a miami uniform
 
Yes David Overstreet was a ledgon here in Oklahoma he was definately loved by Sooner fans.

I dont know if this has merit but I thought Jimmy Johnson got too conservative and defenses stoped our running game because John Avery was a below average back and Cecil went to prison.

our defensive players in my opinion were too small at times and they wore down . had we went with a bigger defense then i think we would have had success.

I know bad Acefin, bad Acefin,

i think if you guys look at our team in the late 90's it was obvious that our wrs were average and our rbs suxed.

let me omitt O.J. McDuffie but he was hurt in 1999 and Gadsden was ok but he would quit on some routes and that caused Marino to throw ints.

If Marino would have had Jerome Bettis , Ricky Williams and Patrick Cobbs or Ronnie , Ricky and Patrick he would have gotten close.
Plus if you guys remember , we lost 3 playoff games because of Fiedler couldnt get the ball downfield.
 
Acefin 500 said:
Yes David Overstreet was a ledgon here in Oklahoma he was definately loved by Sooner fans.

I dont know if this has merit but I thought Jimmy Johnson got too conservative and defenses stoped our running game because John Avery was a below average back and Cecil went to prison.

our defensive players in my opinion were too small at times and they wore down . had we went with a bigger defense then i think we would have had success.

I know bad Acefin, bad Acefin,

i think if you guys look at our team in the late 90's it was obvious that our wrs were average and our rbs suxed.

let me omitt O.J. McDuffie but he was hurt in 1999 and Gadsden was ok but he would quit on some routes and that caused Marino to throw ints.

If Marino would have had Jerome Bettis , Ricky Williams and Patrick Cobbs or Ronnie , Ricky and Patrick he would have gotten close.
Plus if you guys remember , we lost 3 playoff games because of Fiedler couldnt get the ball downfield.
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actually john Avery was never a starter and he was no more below average than any other runningback on our team at the time. Our run blocking was almost as much to blame as our lack of talent at runningback.
 
No defense. I think better RB's would have helped, but when you score 30+ points and still lose, there's a bigger problem than the running game.
Also, as far as the 1000 seasons go, Shula did a lot of platooning of backs. Take a look back at those 80's teams with Bennet, Nathan, Joe Carter, A Franklin, Pete Johnson, etc, and add their rushing numbers together. We'd rush for 1000+ yards, but Shula used to call his own plays and send them in with a player, causing a rotation, also he liked to tailor his plays to suit his talent. So he call specific plays for the situation and players in the game, thus splitting the carries up.
 
MDFinFan06 said:
from what ive seen i would have to say KAJ but i didnt get to see dan in the 80's. but isnt he the only 1000 yard rusher he ever had too?
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Yeah but that stat is misleading. Johnson was committed to trying to run the ball. Trying to handcuff Danny. And KAJ was not the best back he had running for him.

I think anyone who had seen the young David Overstreet would have to agree he looked like he was going to be special. JJ's committment to trying to run the ball or should I say force run the ball down opponents throats could also have been his downfall. Had he not wasted so many picks on failed running back picks and try to improve his god alful offensive lines. Ruddy was not the best center Miami has seen he would miss blocks that would get Dan killed.
 
We always talk about Shula as a great coach for bringing the big one twice here; however, the 80's was plagued with questionable moves that I will never comprehend to this day. Our team could have improved defensively and offensively if we were able to draft the correct guys to run this franchise.
 
Bopkin02 said:
No defense. I think better RB's would have helped, but when you score 30+ points and still lose, there's a bigger problem than the running game.
Also, as far as the 1000 seasons go, Shula did a lot of platooning of backs. Take a look back at those 80's teams with Bennet, Nathan, Joe Carter, A Franklin, Pete Johnson, etc, and add their rushing numbers together. We'd rush for 1000+ yards, but Shula used to call his own plays and send them in with a player, causing a rotation, also he liked to tailor his plays to suit his talent. So he call specific plays for the situation and players in the game, thus splitting the carries up.
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I agree with this. It's those later 80's teams when Dan Marino was in his prime that would have won multiple Super Bowls with a top notch defense. Marino never had a great RB to take the pressure off, but i don't think he really needed one until the 90's when his play declined a little. Plus Woody Bennett and Tony Nathan were both good enough backs (on those later 80's teams) to get the job done for Marino. Even Troy Stradford was ok. We were so unlucky with running backs like Andre Franklin and David Overstreet both suffering career ending injuries (Overstreet of course life ending) and Sammie Smith who we took high and he just sucked that a lot of people put more stock in Marino's RB woes. He could have still won without a star RB had the Phins had a quality defense.

As up and down as the Dolphins defense was during the Marino (or at least the Tom Olivadotti era.....mainly down by the way) era, the Dolphins always went further when their defense had been a strong unit during the regular season. Of course the defense always seemed to come up short in the big games, take for instance that playoff game in Buffalo in 1990 where the Bills put up like 500 yards and scored 44 points on our defense ranked in the top 5! But then again they were a hell of a team......
 
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