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So it turns out that RB's are NOT falling off trees as has been mentioned here
Reading Mandos article made me think I sure hop the RB position and even maybe the WR position going forward is not treated like the OL had been in the past decade
All probably know I am still annoyed at giving Drake away when having no replacement and that seems to be a huge mistake
The replies were "you can get them anytime" seems you can't
I am not saying #1 overall pick but picking a highly rated RB or WR prospect is what I am for
Skipping on Swift and Dobbins made no sense to me
My point is not to complain about the job Flores has done so far but to worry about the overall philosophy Flores has done a bang up job
Going forward is it going to be more towards the DB's for RB's & WR's or more towards the past OL philosophy which I underswtanf this admin has ramped up effecvtively but was just using it as an example for my question
 
You cannot rebuild a team with quality players at all positions. Another draft and FA coming up will address these concerns.

The KC game showed us how much we lack playmakers compared to them. Grier and Flo are building a team together.......have faith. This is not the old Dolphins of Philbin and Gase.
 
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bradmcnutt13 said:
Is Drake supposed to be a good back? They're paying him 8.4M for what looks like some pretty average numbers. Hopefully we use one of our 2nd rounders on one this year. WR & DE/LB in 1st. RB and ? in 2nd.
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He's top 10 in rushing yards and top 10 in rushing TDs. If that's average I'll take it.
 
superphin said:
He's top 10 in rushing yards and top 10 in rushing TDs. If that's average I'll take it.
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Just looking at some of his game stats, at least half of his games, his numbers are meh. Having a dynamic running qb and a top 5 WR probably inflates those numbers as well. I think we'd be having the same conversation about upgrading our RB position if he were here (especially at that price tag).
 
We'll address it, they certainly tried and didn't piss away big bucks on a fa. ALTHOUGH, I wanted them to make a run at Hunt a while back...that would have been nice. Anyway, we'll get a back this draft, no sweat, Rome wasn't built in a day.
 
vcip said:
So it turns out that RB's are NOT falling off trees as has been mentioned here
Reading Mandos article made me think I sure hop the RB position and even maybe the WR position going forward is not treated like the OL had been in the past decade
All probably know I am still annoyed at giving Drake away when having no replacement and that seems to be a huge mistake
The replies were "you can get them anytime" seems you can't
I am not saying #1 overall pick but picking a highly rated RB or WR prospect is what I am for
Skipping on Swift and Dobbins made no sense to me
My point is not to complain about the job Flores has done so far but to worry about the overall philosophy Flores has done a bang up job
Going forward is it going to be more towards the DB's for RB's & WR's or more towards the past OL philosophy which I underswtanf this admin has ramped up effecvtively but was just using it as an example for my question
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Listen, if we had grabbed WR and RBs in the draft, a thousand posters would have bitched about not beefing up the OL.

Rome was not built in a day
 
My read is that with many many needs, the Dolphins prioritized the needs by position. QB was our top need and we got Tua and we didn't have to give up draft picks to move up to get him. After that we devoted big draft capital to O-line (Austin Jackson, Robert Hunt, Solomon Kindley on top of the free agent additions of Ereck Flowers and Ted Karras) and D-line (Raekwon Davis on top of the free agent additions of Emmanuel Ogbah and Shaq Lawson), focusing on getting bigger. The other draft position that received attention was DB with the addition of Noah Igbinoghene and Brandon Jones.
I expect the obvious position priorities in 2021 will be WR and RB.
I commend GM, Chris Grier and his team (Asst GM Marvin Allen, Brandon Shore and Reggie McKenzie) on the 2020 Draft. Most of the picks look pretty good and the Lynn Bowden Jr trade from the Raiders has decent upside.
 
It's fun to think about what Tua will be able to do when we have more playmakers. Can't wait to see who we bring into the fold. So many intriguing options in the upcoming draft. Our future is bright 🌞
 
vcip said:
So it turns out that RB's are NOT falling off trees as has been mentioned here
Reading Mandos article made me think I sure hop the RB position and even maybe the WR position going forward is not treated like the OL had been in the past decade
All probably know I am still annoyed at giving Drake away when having no replacement and that seems to be a huge mistake
The replies were "you can get them anytime" seems you can't
I am not saying #1 overall pick but picking a highly rated RB or WR prospect is what I am for
Skipping on Swift and Dobbins made no sense to me
My point is not to complain about the job Flores has done so far but to worry about the overall philosophy Flores has done a bang up job
Going forward is it going to be more towards the DB's for RB's & WR's or more towards the past OL philosophy which I underswtanf this admin has ramped up effecvtively but was just using it as an example for my question
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I anticipate posts here on both sides of the RB debate. even those who want a top RB will admit there are instance where the top guy goes out, #2 comes in a runs through the D. That's evidence of the 'don't need a top RB if the OL is good' argument. Henry is an example the RB does make a difference. This is not black and white.

Grier/Flo are so new at this fans have no hx on their views of RBs/WRs. Do they really think a R1 RB is important? No one knows. All we have is opinions. Same problem with WRs. I am certain Miami needs a feature back who can get tough yards. I claim no knowledge whether that will be FA or draft. How much improvement in the run game will fans see next year after an off-season? Again, I have no idea. The conclusion of Flo and staff will determine the value of a R1 RB.

I don't think anyone denies Miami needs help at WR. This is one where I expect a day one pick. Beyond that, I make no guesses.

I'm intrigued by your wording. You want "a highly rated RB or WR prospect." Good wording. Not 'highly ranked.' Not 'R1.' Just "highly rated." That is the job of Flo/staff/scouts and I suspect Miami will do that based on THEIR rating - not the fans. To state the obvious, if Grier/Flo give priority to Edge/ILB/WR, fans can guess where RB will be.
 
superphin said:
He's top 10 in rushing yards and top 10 in rushing TDs. If that's average I'll take it.
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He's also had 7 out of 12 games with less than four yards per carry. That's been his career. He's a home run hitter who will have a big 150 yard game when the eating is good but he cannot do that with any consistency. Total yards is a function of his over 200 carries. His 4.2 yards per carry are near the bottom of the top 30 runners in 2020. Take away his big game against Dallas this year (20 for 164) and his numbers are even more pedestrian. Everyone runs all over Dallas, that's not an accomplishment.
 
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