Reason To Start Sage

[Dolphin_Daz]

Looking at the schedule this game against the saints is the last winable game for a while. After this we have the Falcons (HELP) and then the Pats, regardless of what your heart may say we shoulndt be expected to win these games.

So if we lose those and the game Sunday we are 2-7 and looking at the first pick in the draft (Yes Houston will get it but we are still looking at it) and we are back to being just a dam awful team.

So why start sage, well its simple - get him ready for the falc and pats!! With Gus these two games are losses but with Sage who knows. Play sage against the Saints let him get his arm used to being a starter in the NFL and see what he can do then then.

Saban does seem like he is getting a plan in place but this moive could be a move that makes him look clever and loved by the fans. GO SAGE!!!

 

[dw10]

Enough already with the start Sage threads. The guy came in and made an awful throw into double coverage. The pass should have been intercepted but Chambers made a great adjustment on the ball to snag it and then walked in the end zone.

Doesn't anyone remember the devastating turnovers Sage committed in his 1st and only start against the Ravens last year. Other than his beautiful hook up to Chambers on the 1st play of the game, he wasn't effective.

Right now Gus simply has a confidence issue. He'll pull through just fine and lead us.

 

[fishypete]

Enough already with the start Sage threads. The guy came in and made an awful throw into double coverage. The pass should have been intercepted but Chambers made a great adjustment on the ball to snag it and then walked in the end zone.

Doesn't anyone remember the devastating turnovers Sage committed in his 1st and only start against the Ravens last year. Other than his beautiful hook up to Chambers on the 1st play of the game, he wasn't effective.

Right now Gus simply has a confidence issue. He'll pull through just fine and lead us.

Awful throw? It was a throw that Gus couldn't and didn't make in the last three games...one that his receiver had a chance to catch....and thats the idea isn't?

 

[BlueFin]

Awful throw? It was a throw that Gus couldn't and didn't make in the last three games...one that his receiver had a chance to catch....and thats the idea isn't?

Yes I have to agree, Frerotte just isn't accurate enough and is not making enough plays, it seems to me to be worth a shot to at least see what Sage can do......especially following a real good pre-season by Sage.

Who's to say this isn't the time that the game slows down for Sage and he arrives as a good NFL quarterback?

I'm not suggesting I think its probable or likely, but what do we have to lose giving it a shot?

Reality is that being one game out of first place probably means Frerotte will stay in there though.

 

[dw10]

We stay with Gus, period! Again, Sage's throw was a poor choice and he was lucky it wasn't intercepted. How can you watch that play and not see that??? I'm not saying Sage is bad, but we can't go yanking Gus quite yet. Stick with your QB a little longer than a couple losses. The O line is more to blame than Gus.....but that's another thread.

 

[Dolphalou]

Sage made a great throw knowing that we had a 17 points deficit with less than 4 minutes to play. If we would have been down by 5, a more cautious approach would have been better, but that was note the case.

 

[miamirw]

We stay with Gus, period! Again, Sage's throw was a poor choice and he was lucky it wasn't intercepted. How can you watch that play and not see that??? I'm not saying Sage is bad, but we can't go yanking Gus quite yet. Stick with your QB a little longer than a couple losses. The O line is more to blame than Gus.....but that's another thread.

Are you Gus's agent?

 

[Tim1958]

We stay with Gus, period! Again, Sage's throw was a poor choice and he was lucky it wasn't intercepted. How can you watch that play and not see that??? I'm not saying Sage is bad, but we can't go yanking Gus quite yet. Stick with your QB a little longer than a couple losses. The O line is more to blame than Gus.....but that's another thread.

First off what makes you think Sage didn't intentionally throw the ball inside to give Chambers a chance to adjust away from the coverage?? In that case it makes it a GREAT throw! Secondly pulling the trigger on Gus isn't because of a couple of losses, it's because of 11 straight games of completely inaccurate passing. He is hamstringing this offense which is spilling over to the defense that was on the field for 40 minutes. Gus was given much more than a fair chance. The job CLEARLY was always his to lose. He has been given the benefit of the doubt for all of training camp, preseason and regular season without EVER doing anything to EARN the starting spot. As opposing defenses have figured out that R&R are much more threat than Gus they are stacking the line, stopping the run and pressuring Gus. This leaves the receivers open, but Gus can't hit them. This scenario will not change until our QB starts burning people for doing it. The results we have seen the last 3 weeks will be repeated until WE make a change. Do it now!

 

[miamirw]

As opposing defenses have figured out that R&R are much more threat than Gus they are stacking the line, stopping the run and pressuring Gus. This leaves the receivers open, but Gus can't hit them. This scenario will not change until our QB starts burning people for doing it. The results we have seen the last 3 weeks will be repeated until WE make a change. Do it now!

Clarity. I love it.

You hit it right on the head. NFL defenses will continue to stack the line and make Gus beat them through the air. if he can't hit an open chambers in the end zone for five yards (that was the kicker for me), then he's ineffective IMO. Sage gives us a little bit of hope. Heck we need a change here. We need a spark.

 

[mrbman013]

We All Know Gus Is Not The Future We Have To Find Out If Sage Has A Chance To Be The Future.he Needs Starts To Get His Feet Wet.we Arent Making The Playoffs Any Way .go Phins

 

[finfan54]

Enough already with the start Sage threads. The guy came in and made an awful throw into double coverage. The pass should have been intercepted but Chambers made a great adjustment on the ball to snag it and then walked in the end zone.

Doesn't anyone remember the devastating turnovers Sage committed in his 1st and only start against the Ravens last year. Other than his beautiful hook up to Chambers on the 1st play of the game, he wasn't effective.

Right now Gus simply has a confidence issue. He'll pull through just fine and lead us.

i dont think that was a bad throw at all. Right on the numbers. That does not translate into a consistancy however and for people to suggest that one play will turn it all around are crazy.

But I do think Gus gets one more game and we could see Sage come in in the second half this week.

 

[finfan54]

First off what makes you think Sage didn't intentionally throw the ball inside to give Chambers a chance to adjust away from the coverage?? In that case it makes it a GREAT throw! Secondly pulling the trigger on Gus isn't because of a couple of losses, it's because of 11 straight games of completely inaccurate passing. He is hamstringing this offense which is spilling over to the defense that was on the field for 40 minutes. Gus was given much more than a fair chance. The job CLEARLY was always his to lose. He has been given the benefit of the doubt for all of training camp, preseason and regular season without EVER doing anything to EARN the starting spot. As opposing defenses have figured out that R&R are much more threat than Gus they are stacking the line, stopping the run and pressuring Gus. This leaves the receivers open, but Gus can't hit them. This scenario will not change until our QB starts burning people for doing it. The results we have seen the last 3 weeks will be repeated until WE make a change. Do it now!

Although I agree with your points and Sage is ready to come in and start, our problems are much more than Gus and people need to see the big picture. I believe the WR's are not on the same page at all because they have not been where they are suppose to be on some plays.

Gus has been way off no doubt these past two games. He does however connect with Welker rather nicely. Why is that? If sage comes in, I think you will see the same thing from time to time but maybe sage realizes he should dump it off to Ronnie instead of going deep on 2 and 1 and 3rd and 1. :confused:

 

[dw10]

Again, Gus is fine. We need to run the ball more. Sage is not going to come in and start looking like Marino. C'mon guys. There has to be a reason that he never gets the start. I mean, he's been with us for what, 4 years???? Why haven't the coaches started him? They see a hell of alot more than we do everyday in practice. I'll just have to roll wit that because that makes sense and it's logical. Sage is a back up, and that's it.
The play calling needs to chill out a bit. All Gus needs is his confidence back and he'll be just fine. Our running game will win us games far before any of our QBs do. We simply need to play to our strengths with the run and pass shorter and with less frequency. You then know the routine. Our running game picks up, Gus gets his confidence back with all these short passes (like Denver game) then we open it up a bit and go deep with success.
Gus gives us a beter chance to win now. Next year, GOD WILLING, we'll have Philip Rivers. Gus OR Sage won't matter then.

 

[SanFin25]

Enough already with the start Sage threads. The guy came in and made an awful throw into double coverage. The pass should have been intercepted but Chambers made a great adjustment on the ball to snag it and then walked in the end zone.

Doesn't anyone remember the devastating turnovers Sage committed in his 1st and only start against the Ravens last year. Other than his beautiful hook up to Chambers on the 1st play of the game, he wasn't effective.

Right now Gus simply has a confidence issue. He'll pull through just fine and lead us.

you are absolutely wrong about Gus...His issue is that he is inaccurate, not unconfident with his play......the problem is a physical issue, not a mental issue...

 

[SanFin25]

Again, Gus is fine. We need to run the ball more. Sage is not going to come in and start looking like Marino. C'mon guys. There has to be a reason that he never gets the start. I mean, he's been with us for what, 4 years???? Why haven't the coaches started him? They see a hell of alot more than we do everyday in practice. I'll just have to roll wit that because that makes sense and it's logical. Sage is a back up, and that's it.
The play calling needs to chill out a bit. All Gus needs is his confidence back and he'll be just fine. Our running game will win us games far before any of our QBs do. We simply need to play to our strengths with the run and pass shorter and with less frequency. You then know the routine. Our running game picks up, Gus gets his confidence back with all these short passes (like Denver game) then we open it up a bit and go deep with success.
Gus gives us a beter chance to win now. Next year, GOD WILLING, we'll have Philip Rivers. Gus OR Sage won't matter then.

Gus or Sage may not make a difference right now, but confidence is not the issue with Gus...he is too inaccurate. It's a physical issue not mental...look at the film. The man couldn't hit a tree in the Redwood Forrest...that is the problem...not his confidence...